User talk:G Purevdorj

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[edit] Transcription of Mongolian

Hi, on Mongolian name you just changed a lot of names to somewhat unusual (on WP) spelling variations. I remember you contributing to discussions on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Cyrillic) on earlier occasions. I have now made a new and more complete proposal at Wikipedia:Romanization of Mongolian. Would you mind sharing your opinion there? --Latebird 16:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Double plurals in Mongolian language

Can you please have a look at mn:User_talk:Chinneeb#Улсуудын нийслэл, and give us your professional opinion? Temur 21:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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Probe--G Purevdorj 20:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mongolia work group

Hi, I'd like to invite you to the Mongolia work group of the WikiProject Central Asia. You're welcome to add that page to your watchlist and participate in discussions there. So far, many general discussions about topics related to Mongolia have been discussed on individual user's talk pages, away from the attention of a wider audience. I hope that a centralized talk page will make communication between all of us easier. If a question doesn't primarily concern just one specific user, then the work group is probably the right place to ask it. See you there! --Latebird (talk) 06:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Classical script

Hi, I have uploaded two pics for the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Mongolian). Yaan (talk) 00:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] Ligden Khan

Frohe Ostern! Ich frage mich gerade, was die korrekte Schreibung von Ligden Khan wäre - Ligden oder Ligdan? Äußere Mongolen schreiben "Ligden", aber eine Reihe von Autoren bevorzugen scheinbar "Ligdan". Wie kann das sein (tibet. Name?), und wie sieht der Name in der traditionellen Schrift aus? Yaan (talk) 11:35, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Keine ganz leichte Frage. Es hat eine Änderung in der Vokalharmonieklasse gegeben bei Worten, deren Stamm nur i enthält, und zwar von hinter- nach vordervokalisch. Das würde eine Diskrepanz zwischen Mongolen und Nichtmongolen erklären. "Ligdan" ist natürlich EIN Wortstamm, also etwas seltsam. Könnte sein, dass für Fremdwortphonologie (kein mongolisches Wort mit L am Anfang) andere Regeln gelten. Ist am Ende aber irrelevant, wie man ihn im heutigen Mongolischen ausspricht. Für das andere müsste ich mal in die Quellen kucken. Vorder- und hintervokalisches g sind ja recht leicht zu unterscheiden. Wird aber vor Donnerstag nächster Woche nichts. Erwarten würde ich „Ligdan“. Aber es sollte (sobald die Vokalsache geklärt ist) noch eine zweite Variante erwähnt werden. Der Gute kommt nämlich nicht nur in den chinesischen, sondern auch in mongolisch geschriebenen Quellen als „LiNdan“ vor. G Purevdorj 15:01, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Kein völlig klares Ergebnis. Sehr wahrsch. Entlehnung von tib. legs-ldan, etwa mong. buyan-tu. Siehe auch Bolur Erdeni "Laenkldan qutughtan-u". Im Tib. a zu ä vor n, aber wann genau noch unklar. Daneben Vokalharmonie, und der Name war nicht unüblich. Soweit "Lighdan" mir bisher nicht belegt, würde ich vorsichtig vermuten, dass e ab urbe condita. Bisher finden sich:

• Altan tobci (je nach Version): Linda/en, Ligda/en
• Qad-un ündüsün-ü erdeni-yin tobciya: Lingda/en
• Bolur Erdeni: Laenkldan, Ligda/en
• Asaraghci neretü-yin teüke: Linda/en
• Iledkel shastir: Linda/en

Also g ~ n ~ ng (ein Phonem). Da nicht in Tib., sehe ich (lustigerweise, da man von den Buchstaben selbst her ja andersrum denken würde) zu ng keinen Weg außer von g aus. Und der Weg von ng zu n vor d ist unentrinnbar. Das soweit Geschriebene ließe sich durch weitere Quellen, durch eine systematische Lehnwortphonologie sowie durch eine Rekonstruktion der chin. Aussprache von 林丹 um 1600 vertiefen. Aber ich denke, es dürfte dabei bleiben, dass Ligden die treffenste Form ist. G Purevdorj 23:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

g>n|_d doch schon im Tib. belegt, d.h. eventuell konkurrierende Entlehnungen. Recht aufwendig zu untersuchen, das. Kann man nur skizzieren. G Purevdorj 10:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] gamma

Hi,

does this look good on your computer: Ulaγan/Ulaγan? On mine (currently Apple) it does, but I would like to know what it looks like on others. Regards, Yaan (talk) 16:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Looks slightly better than the gamma I used in the bibliography in Mongolian language. Will certainly do. G Purevdorj 17:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe bold looks better? mongγol Yaan (talk) 17:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

A bit. But it's too eye-catching this way. Better opt for the first version. G Purevdorj 21:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)