Talk:Floyd Rose

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Contents 1 Floyd Rose biography 2 Double locking tremolos before FR 3 Staying in Tune For Weeks at a Time

From what I recall, Van Halen did not yet have a Floyd Rose on his strat-type guitar when he recorded Eruption in 1977 or 78 (the record came out in 78). The FR trem was designed in 77. I do not recall seeing them on production guitars before 80/81.

Hi Mel Etitis, Mgekelly: please see the 1978 VH interviews on http://www.vhlinks.com/pages/interviews/evh/gp1178.php and http://www.vhlinks.com/pages/interviews/evh/gu1978.php - he does not mention anything even remotely similar to a Floyd Rose (becuase it didn't exist at the time). The first mention is in the 1979 interview (http://www.vhlinks.com/pages/interviews/evh/gp122979.php) where he explains that he doesn't use it in the studio. Also, if you look closely at the cover of the first VH album you will see that his strat has a normal tremolo. Thus I have reverted the page to exclude Eruption as a Floyd Rose example.

Please sign your posts on talk pages. Andrewa 00:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Floyd Rose biography

Who was or is Floyd Rose?

The current website of Floyd Rose implies that he exists and is still designing their stuff, but no bio details.

Google is no more help. A different Google search at least produced someone who had met him, so he exists! There's also some material at this AOL member page.

Ideally, we'd probably move this article to Floyd Rose locking tremolo or similar, and have another two articles, one on the brand and the other on the person. Not sure which should go at Floyd Rose; Perhaps even a disambig. Andrewa 00:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

He's is really Floyd D. Rose and if you want to start an article on his biography, I'd advice to use that name. However, I doubt there's really anything astonishing in his private life. He made one big improvement in guitar construction: Floyd Rose tremolo and all other areas it's more or less just business. Floyd Rose Guitars is a relatively small enterprise. I'm not sure it's a lot worth mentioning in separate article. --GreyCat 21:00, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

The inventor of a device that every electric guitarist in the world of any note either uses or has evaluated and rejected (I'm in the latter category, even though I'm not of any note) deserves an article IMO. Stub is at Floyd D. Rose. Andrewa 13:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Double locking tremolos before FR

It should mentioned that there were double-locking tremolos existing before, as soon as in 1956 (guitar Grazioso, later named Futurama, from czech company Resonet). see this for example —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vid512 (talk • contribs) 11:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC).

The link currently redirects here - http://www.vintagehofner.co.uk/hofnerfs/futurama/fut.html - there's no example of a double locking tremolo on that page. RB30DE 02:18, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Staying in Tune For Weeks at a Time

In the 'advantages' list, one item states that a properly setup Floyd Rose system will stay in tune for weeks. This is followed by a "citation needed" tag. I did not insert the citation tag, but this statement really needs revising, if not removing, more than it needs citing.

First of all, what constitutes "weeks"? Literally weeks, as in several hundred playing hours? That will absolutely require citing. Or is it "weeks" of playing for twenty minutes or less every few days? And obviously, different flavors of music lend themselves to tremolo and bending more than others - time is simply a bad way to measure an instrument's ability to be consistent.

Assuming all other factors are constant including music genre, player, guitar, etc., I still don't believe that Floyd Rose setups will stay in tune any longer than Fender synchronized tremolo or a Bigsby setup - in my opinion, the only advantage is the wider range of the trem (although with some 2-point Fender setups you can achieve nearly the same range as well).

People simply don't understand where or how you lubricate Strat-style trem suspensions - I do, and here's my experience. My old, falling-apart, abused Samick Strat knock-off with fake 6-point Strat tremolo will stay in tune for hours and hours of me playing Southern Blues and Hendrix. My Indonesian Squier Strat with 2-point trem will do the same. But I have a Mexican Deluxe Player's Strat with vintage 6-point trem, vintage locking tuners, a graphite nut and lots of graphite on the saddles, and it will require few adjustments over the life of the strings... I would pit it against a Floyd Rose setup any day. Gameforge (talk) 02:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

^ I don't think your vintage tremolo can do reverse dive bombs or keep up with a Floyd when doing octave+ dips. There's just no way. Btw I removed Ritchie Blackmore off the "people who popularized the Floyd" list because Ritchie is anti-Floyd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.154.223.46 (talk) 01:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

hey, just someting to add, nobody mentioned that floyd rose original bridges are actually made by schaller in germany and sold by floyd rose in new jersey, and are not att all that different than the schaller floyd rose as sold by stewart mc donald and similar guitar part suppliers. Sure it's mentioned that the schaller is similar quality, but just failed to mention why!!!!!Misetusa (talk) 02:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

We need a citation for this one, and, surely, if it's true, it should be added to the article. --GreyCat (talk) 21:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

sorry, I've looked for a citation, and all I have is a box from a floyd rose original I bought which says "made in Germany", not sure if I can use this photo because of copyright? will continue to look for citation194.46.227.243 (talk) 21:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)