Talk:Flight 93 National Memorial

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Contents 1 Grammar 2 temporary memorial 3 controversy section seems POV 4 A depressing subject, sure... 5 Land owners 6 Fair use rationale for Image:Cresent direction.jpg 7 Fair use rationale for Image:Crescent direction.jpg 8 Crescent direction

[edit] Grammar

This article needs a lot of grammatical help. User:Zoe|^(talk) 06:02, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I made a first run at cleanup when I expanded the content from just the Crescent of Embrace to the larger National Memorial. I won't claim I caught everything. — Eoghanacht ^talk 20:21, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] temporary memorial

I just added the temporary memorial section. I went there earlier this year so I described it

[edit] controversy section seems POV

It would be nice if the controversy section at least acknowledged the fact that a non-trivial number of people thought that the criticisms leveled against the original design were misguided, if not nuts. --Cmdroverbite 06:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The problem is that it can be difficult to document a "silent majority" for the purposes of WP:V. If you have a credible source for such an opinion -- or maybe a quote from someone involved -- you are welcome to try to work it into the article. — Eoghanacht ^talk 18:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A depressing subject, sure...

..but if you need a laugh, follow the footnote number 8. One of the best conspiracy theory-nut spoofs I've ever seen. Wait, it is a spoof, right...?

[edit] Land owners

I was wondering who owned this land and what it was used for before the crash. I always hear it described as a "field." Does that mean it was being used for farming? Are there any more details available about this "approximately 2200 acres, of which about 1200 will be privately held"? Does that sentence in the article need to be marked "citation needed"? Thanks. --Lkseitz 16:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

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Should this article be updated - wasn't the design changed from a crescant to a full circle, and the name was changed too? As this memorial has not been built and there are questions, maybe it could be looked at again or delayed as per the public's wishes. Are there better ideas? There could be a link to "Alternate proposals", it might be a condensed section... many submissions are probably nonsense. What about a "Finances" Section?

Does anybody have a recent reckoning about money, government and private money? There must be information, estimates, guesses on government and private figures up to and after NPS figures. About private money raised... was this organised? Totals raised... totals spent on consultants, employees? How many areas was money spent on: property and other expenses? One website had a $30 million private goal + $28 Million government goal! I think the private money raised was much less, does anybody have any figures? 496 (?) paid people doesn't seem real... maybe it would be OK but if true it would be nice to know what they were doing. Land needed was bought for much less than expected, $2 - $5 million?

What about this website: http://www.honorflight93.org/site/c.8dJCKQNuFoG/b.1555703/k.BD7E/Home.htm  ???

Bernie

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cresent direction.jpg

Image:Cresent direction.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 08:46, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Crescent direction.jpg

Image:Crescent direction.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 13:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crescent direction

I think it should be pointed out that the critics state that the crescent is pointing Southeast towards Mecca. The source given in the page says it's aimed at ~125° angle, towards Mecca. In actuality, North American Muslims pray Northeast, as that is the shortest distance to Mecca. Using Philadelphia as the closest city, the qibla is clearly northeast. I'm actually surprised this isn't covered. Can someone add this and correct the NPOV?BrotherSulayman (talk) 04:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)