Talk:Final Fantasy II

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  • fill in plot section with game manual references
  • expand reception section
  • fill in info box with dates of releases of different versions
  • add reception sentence to 3rd paragraph of lead
  • trim story section
  • cite any unreferenced statements
  • copyedit article extensively
  • peer review suggestions
  • nominate for FAC when ready
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[edit] FA push

Okay, This article is coming together. Some things we need to do are here:

  • Lead section - should be 3 paragraphs
  • Copyedit - Article needs a thorough copyedit
  • Infobox - needs to be filled in with dates of releases of different versions.
  • Plot section - fill in section with game manual references
  • Reception section - needs to be created for original version of FFII


Also, I have now requested a peer review. Anyone who wants to do the push, you can do so now. Greg Jones II 19:12, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peer Review Suggestions

The following is suggestions from the peer review.

The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.

  • The long plot summary section is just a mass of text. Can it be broken down at all, or links added?
  • Watch for redundancies that make the article too wordy instead of being crisp and concise. (You may wish to try Tony1's redundancy exercises.)
    • Vague terms of size often are unnecessary and redundant - “some”, “a variety/number/majority of”, “several”, “a few”, “many”, “any”, and “all”. For example, “All pigs are pink, so we thought of a number of ways to turn them green.”
  • As done in WP:FOOTNOTE, footnotes usually are located right after a punctuation mark (as recommended by the CMS, but not mandatory), such that there is no space in between. For example, the sun is larger than the moon [2]. is usually written as the sun is larger than the moon.[2][?]
  • Wasn't there a dwarf named Cid in the first Final Fantasy? (My apologies if I'm not using proper Wiki discussion form.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.178.32.95 (talk) 20:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.[?]
You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, DrKiernan 14:50, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Any of these suggestions will be greatly appreciated for FA. Thanks. Greg Jones II 20:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Story section needs an overhaul...

Seeing as how I've never had the chance to play Final Fantasy II, I came here to read the story. There isn't much of a story, however. It seems more like a jumble of words strung together to look big. Not only that, but reading it gives me a headache. Here's a sentence from it:

"The light Emperor explains that the passage was Raqia not Jade and that the palace is Arubboth (Heaven) and that they have been brought back to be asked for forgiveness, which they decline, thinking he is mocking them after visions of their friends on Earth appear, showing them Firion, Maria, Guy and Leon fighting the Emperor on Earth."

Again, that's one sentence. Roughly three ideas are glued together into one piece of text. It isn't just that it's poorly written- the entire thing needs an overhaul. It is way too long to be of any use, and makes references that only someone who has played the game would understand. I'd edit it myself, but like I said, I've never played FFII.--204.248.58.85 (talk) 03:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merger proposal of Characters article

The article on the characters has no notability to speak of, and could be covered fully in the characters section of this article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 00:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. The concept and creation stuff should be in this article as it's only one source and not significant enough to warrant a separate article. Kariteh (talk) 07:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC)