Talk:Ferdinand Bol

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In making copy edits to aid in coherency, I have reverted excessive information about Bol's neighbors and compatriots. This is information which would be appropriate for an article on cultural life in Amsterdam in the 1600s. JNW 15:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Re-inserted as footnotes. JNW 18:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I am not intending to write an article on cultural life in Amsterdam around 1630, too complicated. It is only one sentence, why am I not allowed to paint the neigborhood. The article is very short and if I remember well, you dont like colourful additions. Very puritan attitude, also to leave out the jews who were moving into the neighborhood! Taksen 19:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Please see WP:TOPIC. I love color, but there there is anecdote which is relevant to the first paragraph of a biography, and that which is trivia. No one is saying something is 'not allowed'; we are each making editorial decisions. I did cut some poorly phrased material. The last comment is, of course, unnecessarily personal, and provocative; I am proud of my Jewish heritage. Hopefully one's edits maintain a certain beneficent neutrality. JNW 20:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

If I remember well you have never been to Amsterdam. I cannot accept that everything you have never heard of is false, has to be changed or removed. I did like when you approved my English.

In an early stage the flemish immigrants made the area more colourful, dressing extravagant, speaking differently and more interested into sumptious goods. In the 17th century the neigborhood (a melting pot) may have inspired artists, at least that was written about Rembrandt. (If he painted many jews was doubted last year in the exhibition on Rembrandt in the Joods Historisch Museum and presented as a 19th century invention). About Bol's life not very much is known, he moved to O.Z. Voorburgwal, starting for himself and working for the city and upper class clientèle.

In the 18th century the many jewish shops and people caused that the name of that particular part of the street was changed into Jodenbreestraat! Taksen 20:59, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

It should not become a novel, I agree, but one or two sentences? I guess I know way more about the city than you and like to paint it a little for the ones who will never be able to see it. You are very strict, my dear. Taksen 22:24, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

All the new information on Bol is from Gary Schwartz. There is an English translation of the book from 1985.

The most influential Jews in Sint Antoniesbreestraat were members of the family De Pinto, coming from Antwerp or Portugal. Less wealthy eastern European Jews lived more east of Rembrandt. Taksen 07:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)