Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2001 NFL Draft
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[edit] 2001 NFL Draft
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: 10 days, 6 support, 0 oppose. Promote. Juhachi 02:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
This list follows the other featured draft lists, like 2003 NFL Draft, and 2006 NFL Draft, and I believe it is comprehensive and everything has been cited. Support as nominator. Gman124 18:27
- Comment: Ah, someone's pickign up where I left off, good. I'd liek to see the linking fo the colleges and positions fixed. Right now they're all linked in the first round and none are afterwards. I can do that later if needed though.--Wizardman 18:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- I think the college and position names should only be linked first time they appear, but i'll link the colleges that haven't been linked yet. Gman124 18:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- Exactly. Thing is they aren't linked the first time. Plus there are some where the colege is linked twice in the first round. It's no biggie though, I'll support upon that being taken care of.--Wizardman 18:43, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- I think the college and position names should only be linked first time they appear, but i'll link the colleges that haven't been linked yet. Gman124 18:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- Seeing howing the 2007 NFL Draft just recently took place, the standard, in my opinion, has been raised significantly for these draft articles to reach FL status. Every single trade in the recent draft is referenced, which it should be. I'd like to see that kind of treatment given to this article as well before I can support. Pepsidrinka 21:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- But there are references for all the trades, so what else does it need? Could you be more specific? Gman124 22:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- No there aren't references for all the trades. Merely a footnote next to a pick doesn't mean it is properly referenced. Clicking on the references merely brings up a page with that rounds picks, which is essentially what is provided on our article page. However, it does not explain the details of the trade. Who was trades for who? What was traded for what? If the Dolphins' 2nd round pick came from the 49ers, what are the details of that trade? Click the links in the 2007 draft article to get a sense of what I mean. Pepsidrinka 00:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
I made references like 2007 NFL Draft, but there are still some references left, and I am having a hard time finding all of them, so I need help finding the rest of the references.Gman124 01:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)- Looks good, in terms of references. I do have a couple more comments. The links to the schools should link to the football program whenever possible. Florida should link to Florida Gators football and not University of Florida or Florida Gators. If a school doesn't have a football article, link to its athelitcs article. If that too doesn't exist, it should link to the main university/college page. Also, the players column should utilize the span tags to enable sorting by last name. Sorting by first name is kind of useless. I've done the first round. Pepsidrinka 02:30, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Also, a couple more things. There should be no inconsistency with regards to positions. Either it should be "Defensive end" or "Defensive End", not both. Also, "Tight end" and "wide receiver", etc, should be in the same format. A could of the other featured drafts also list the full team name in latter rounds, instead of just the city name. Makes it look better, IMO. Though there should be some discussion on which to utilize. Pepsidrinka 02:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- I have fixed the university links, now they go straight to their football programs, that is if they have a page on their football program. Gman124 20:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- Used tags to alphabetize all the players names by laset names. Gman124 22:25, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- Fixed player position names. Gman124 22:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- Put whole team names for all rounds. Gman124 23:49, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- Everything looks good. Support. Pepsidrinka 16:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
- No there aren't references for all the trades. Merely a footnote next to a pick doesn't mean it is properly referenced. Clicking on the references merely brings up a page with that rounds picks, which is essentially what is provided on our article page. However, it does not explain the details of the trade. Who was trades for who? What was traded for what? If the Dolphins' 2nd round pick came from the 49ers, what are the details of that trade? Click the links in the 2007 draft article to get a sense of what I mean. Pepsidrinka 00:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
- But there are references for all the trades, so what else does it need? Could you be more specific? Gman124 22:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- Support, only needs a few more references in my opinion, and I'm confident they'll be found. --Phoenix (talk) 17:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
- I have fixed all the references and made them have same format as 2007 NFL Draft. Gman124 02:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - I chose a random featured draft (2005) and compared it to this, and I found a couple things that need to be changed (in several cases, it is better in 2001, but either way they need to match for consistancy). First, compensatory selections are represented in a different color in this draft vs. 2005, all drafts should be the same in this regard. Also, the legend explaining what the colors represent is not in the same order on each draft (pro bowlers are listed first in 2001 and second in 2005). The number column is centered in the 2005 draft page, in 2001 it is not. 2001 is sortable, and 2005 is not. There is a note explaining every pick trade in the 2001 draft, and there isn't in 2005. No note about Mr. Irrelevant in either draft, but I recall 2006 and 2007 drafts having such a note. 2005 has a "notable undrafted players" section, 2001 does not. The list of players by position count at the top of each is in a different order. All the issues I have mentioned should be uniform accross all drafts. Another thing I will note is that someone unfamiliar with football may think that being highlighted as a pro bowler means they went to the pro bowl that year, which is certainly not the case. We may want to add a note on each draft page clarifying that it means they went to the pro bowl any time in their career. VegaDark 08:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- fixed compensatory selections and made them have same color as all the rest of the featured draft lists, also fixed the order of the legend. and made 2005 sortable, and added about Mr. Irrelevant. Gman124 17:15, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- also centred the numbers column in 2001 draft. Gman124 18:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- also added a note about pro bowlers. Gman124 18:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, looks good enough to support. It would be nice to have a "notable undrafted players" section, though, and us in the NFL Wikiproject should look at all the featured drafts and make sure they are all identical format-wise. VegaDark 19:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Does pro bowler mean the following season or ever? Some of the ref are footnotes, that needs to be made clear. Overwise it's fine I'll be happy to show support once you fix these two things. Buc 21:06, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- The Pro-Bowler has a note next to it and that explains that the player went to pro bowl at any time in his carrer and moved footnotes under notes section. Gman124 21:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Support: I think the article meets FL criteria. There are a few additions required, but otherwise the article looks great. Kalyan 08:08, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
