Talk:Fatigue (medical)

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[edit] References

Needs one or more references to cover the content, added tag.--FloNight 22:56, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Solutions

What are solution suggustions for fatigue (physical)

[edit] Edit summary

I meant of course[1]: people who capitalise every medical condition. JFW | T@lk 15:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "MN"

Someone needs to explain or expand on what MN is (see Types section), and preferably also add it to the MN page

[edit] picture

the picture is pretty random and not really needed. if a picture is there please let it show detail and be useful and contributive (not sure that's a word :)). a closeup of certain symptoms maybe would work better.

I am not certain that the article got more user friendly by removing its only photo. 81.214.51.85 13:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-biological fatigue?

Something is missing from an article on fatigue that does not mention metal. I am not an engineer, but have heard engineers refer to fatigued metal causing accidents, or old metal being fatigued and therefore no longer stable. It should probably be a seperate article from biological fatigue and a disambiguation page created; but I don't know enough about it to write an article.

The article you are looking for is Fatigue (material). --Arcadian 20:18, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lethargy vs. Fatigue

Describing (redirecting) lethargy as (to) fatigue is a misnomer. Lethargy is not necessarily a subset of fatigue. Ancient spiritual practices such as Buddhism recognized lethargy as an affliction of the mind and described antidotes to counteract its effects.

Another Editor:

I agree with the above comment regarding Lethargy. I was redirected to Fatigue when searching for Lethargy, however this does not seem correct as Lethargy is a state of mind and not a physical thing.

An excerpt from FreeDictionary.com

Lethargy: 1. A state of sluggishness, inactivity, and apathy. 2. A state of unconsciousness resembling deep sleep.

Fatigue (Dictionary.net): 1. Weariness from bodily labor or mental exertion; lassitude or exhaustion of strength. 2. The cause of weariness; labor; toil; as, the fatigues of war. --Dryden. 3. The weakening of a metal when subjected to repeated vibrations or strains.

There is some ambiguity in the definitions, however as we know dictionaries are often ambiguous and sometimes wrong.

I would say that Lethargy(1) is the best description for lethargy.

My understanding is that Fatigue is more of an 'effect', whereas lethargy is a mental state.

If someone could make an article on Lethargy that would be great!

For lethargy think sloth. For fatigue think tiredness.

I agree. Lethargy has its own medical and lay definition and should most certainly not redirect to fatigue. Kajerm 01:44, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


I attended a lecture the other day that proposed the adoption of the word 'lasitude' in clinical contexts in order to distinguish it from general, non-medical fatigue and therefore help to redefine the real problem to make it more accepted by employers and insurance companies, etc. It was a great lecture and will no doubt have impact in this area in the future. Someone who cares might want to follow up on this. I would help, I'm sure, if I had the name of the researcher . . . but again, someone who cares more . . .


I too agree. Lethargy isn't fatigue, a simple definition check via answers.com or other sources makes this note clear. As does the original commenter. --Jeremyhfht 17:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Fatigue (physical) → Fatigue (medical) — "Fatigue (physical)", while intended to disambiguate this use of "fatigue" from the other major meaning Fatigue (material), is still somewhat ambiguous. Fatigue (medical) would probably be a better page name. Nihiltres 19:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

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[edit] Discussion

  • With no opposition, I've moved the page. —Mets501 (talk) 16:43, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Exhaustion

There needs to be a seperate article for exhaustion. Although exhaustion includes fatigue, fatigue does not include exhaustion, since exhaustion refers to the end result of fatigue.

Does this make sense? Didn't think so! lol Paul Norfolk Dumpling 14:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing the Fatigue article

I purpose that we begin to finally edit the fatigue(medical) article to remove the apparent misconception that Lethargy and Fatigue are one in the same. A prior discussion (Lethargy vs. Fatigue) shows they are in fact, quite different.

That said, I will begin by editing the fatigue article so it's more centered around fatigue, and less around statements of lethargy. Since I am new to this, I request that everyone aid in this effort. If something is not satisfactory with my edits (or you have suggestions), please feel free to fix it.

Finally, after the fatigue article is back to rights, I will begin making an article on Lethargy, so as to remove that incorrect redirect. If there is no opposition to this, I'll continue it as planned within the next few days/weeks (depending on my free time).

Summarization of what my fixes will be: Cleaned up fatigue article, more sources, simpler wording, better explanations, and removal of excess/needless words.--Jeremyhfht 15:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List

There's a list in the article that is said to be incomplete; what is it a list of?

-- TimNelson 00:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is it?

"• Level 7 - Fatiguers who reach this level will face such immense pain, it is cruel that they are still living"

"it is cruel that they are still living": I did have a laugh when reading it, but this should definitely be erased.

131.111.248.179 16:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

What lies... this does exist!! Anybody who removed the Lingering Fatigue article needs to reconsider their lives!! Fatigue is a huge problem in the world today, and may be the cause of all the pain and suffering out there... it is our job to notify the world of this terrible disease!! We must put the aritcle on lingering fatigue back!!


[edit] Pregnancy

Can pregnancy really be classified a disease? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.97.242.46 (talk) 13:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of causes - silly

It doesn't make much sense to have a huge unclassified list of diseases which may make you tired. More diseases make you tired than don't. Either split them up or remove the list. (I know, I know, I should do it). Nick Bell 18:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I made some progress on the long list. I cut several autoimmune diseases and put in Autoimmune diseases, for example. Can anyone figure out a way to further shorten/improve the list? WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:49, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
the entire article is kind of silly if you think about it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petchboo (talk • contribs) 02:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)