Talk:Führerbunker

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Contents 1 Hitler's remains 2 Reconstructions of the bunker(s) 3 New sentence 4 Fahrerbunker vs. Führerbunker 5 Point of the article 6 Gerhardt Boldt?

[edit] Hitler's remains

What happened to Hitler's remains after burning? jck 16-Jan-2004

See Hitler's death which goes into quite a bit of detail about all this. It seems they may well have (eventually) ended up in the Elbe in 1970. — Trilobite (Talk) 22:12, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reconstructions of the bunker(s)

Hi wikipedians! Finally I have added the reconstructions I made in 2004 of the two bunkers. Instead of repeating the information about my reconstruction here, I refer the descriptions I have made on the actual image pages:

1. Fuehrerbunker.png
2. Vorbunker.png
3. BunkerLocations.png

I hope you enjoy the maps. Regards, Dennis Nilsson. Dna-Dennis 04:43, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New sentence

"In 2006, the Berlin Underground organization installed a small plaque with a schematic of the bunker to mark the location. Hitler bodyguard Rochus Misch was on hand for the ceremony." Can we get a source for this? What is the "Berlin Underground organization?" I snooped around the Chancellery site only three weeks ago and I saw no plaque to the bunker, only the blue historical marker on Wilhelmstrasse marking the site of the Chancellery. It must be very obscure. Adam 03:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

When I read this message, I too found it strange and doubtful. But I have googled for it and found two news articles that confirm it:

• Yahoo News article
• Israel Center article

So, it appears to be a fact. Damn it, I'd very much like to see a photograph of that plaque, due to my historical interest. If any one finds one, please, please notify me. Regards, --Dna-Dennis ^{talk - contribs} 20:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, you'll find that plaque as pdf-document also on the web at: [1]--212.144.10.53 22:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I live in Berlin and will visit the site next week to take a picture for you. I have never added a picture to wikipedia so i probably will post it on another site and leave the link here for you to see it.

[edit] Fahrerbunker vs. Führerbunker

Some photos given in a link to a website from Mr. Roland Harder do not show Hitler's Führerbunker, but the Fahrerbunker (bunker of the governmental car drivers) near the Holocaust memorial. This Bunker was opened in 1993, when the area around the memorial was developed for the Holocaust memorial. The owner of that site (Roland Harder) will mislead the reader of his site, that his friend, photographer Harry von Gebhardt, made photos of the nearby Fahrerbunker, instead of the Führerbunker, in 1988. But in 1988 that area was still undeveloped, since it was in the area of east german republic (Berlin wall came down one year later in 1989). Of course, in 1988 the Fahrerbunker looked the same as in 1993 (very probably, but nobody could know that for sure), when the photos of the Fahrerbunker were taken and were published also in every newspaper. It seems that the owner of that site only wants to have full score of the visitor counter for his site. In a little comment he corrected himself after a phone call with Mr. Rochus Misch, Hilter's telephonist. Please be aware, that this comment is still not commented, and you should read that between the lines. Maybe the photos shown on the site of Roland Harder were taken in occasion of the removal of the nearby real Führerbunker, but very probably the photos were made in the early 1990er years, when the Fahrerbunker was opened while developing the area.--145.254.56.61 22:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I intend being in Berlin again early next year and one of my projects will be to photograph everything that can be photographed in relation to the Reichschancellery / Fuhrerbunker site. I will then be able to provide new photos for this article among others. Adam 02:41, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Point of the article

Reading this article, I found myself highly interested in the details of Hitler's last days, and then, all of a sudden, I realized that this is supposed to be an article about his last dwelling, not his last days. Assuming that this information on Hitler's end exists elsewhere, shouldn't this material be deleted from this article? Or at least, seriously abridged? Unschool 23:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I put in a lot of the detail recently because it was embedded in the Battle in Berlin but much of it is not directly relevant to the battle as it is to do with the political comings and goings from the Bunker. The only other article available seemed to be Adolf Hitler, but that ought not to cover the events after his death. I suppose it depends if one sees the building as only the ferroconcrete or as a "machine for living in" (Le Corbusier Vers une architecture, 1923). If the latter than the social events connected with it when it was part of history are just as important as its physical layout. At the moment the article is not large enough to have to make the choice of less on the physical side for more on the social side or vice versa. --Philip Baird Shearer 13:11, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

No big shakes; I was just thinking. Unschool 16:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gerhardt Boldt?

This article claims that there are only two surviving eyewitnesses to the last days of the bunker, but isn't Gerhard Boldt still alive as of Summer 2007?

• Gerhardt_Boldt says he died in 1981. 86.20.197.57 20:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)