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"Hitler's attempt, in co-operation with General Ludendorff, to unseat the German government in November, l923, through an open rebellion in Munich, was foiled through the efforsts of the local Reichswehr under the command of Von Lossow, and the refusal of Von Kahr, Bavarian Prime minister, to accommodate the Fuhrer. (Von Kahr and Von Lossow were murdered in the Reichsmordwoche, the "Blood Purge", June 30, l934.). From that time on Hitler's hatred for the Junkers, the Reichwehr and all clerical politicians was boundless: his paladins in the army were in the end all non-Junkers such as Jodl, Guderian and "die Keitel". P. F. Drucker was quite right when he said of Hitler's relation to the German army that the Fuhrer "hated it just as much as any German Liberal did." The Church, ably led by Cardinal von Faulhaber, also opposed Hitler on principle." Liberty or Equality pg 260.

Furthermore, Ludendorff was not a Junker.

Junkers are Right wingers. Ludendorff though militaristic was not a right winger, So the right wing from the article might stay or I might add conservative. It was the extremists right-wingers Von Lossow and Von Kahr that put a stop to Hitler.WHEELER 16:35, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Not all Junkers were right-wingers. What a sweeping statement. A lot were conservatives, though, and a minority were Roman Catholic liberals. David Lauder 16:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

He was a nationalist but not a rightist. Rightist is monarchist.WHEELER 16:43, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Another sweeping statement, of no merit. David Lauder 16:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Ludendorff was associated to the Junker class through his mother's name, but his mother's family was not wealthy either. (Parkinson, Roger Tortured Warrior: Ludendorff and the Supreme Command, also Asprey's The German High Command at War) These are just two. Every book I have read notes that he is of humble beginnings; they lived in Posen on a farm, the von Tempelhoffs did not have money, the family cheered his decision to pursue the military because they could not afford to support the rest of the family, including the other 5 children. --68.45.21.204 02:14, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] von

What authority gave Ludendorff the "honorary" title of von? Are we sure it wouldn't be more accurate to say "sometimes incorrectly referred to as Erich von Ludendorff"? Binabik80 23:52, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Absolutely, and it used to say that. I missed it being changed. He was never a noble, although that hasn't stopped idiot Anglo-Saxon historians from ennobling him (*glares*). Mackensen (talk) 02:43, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grim

Not a good article at all, lacking really good citations and adequate sources. Seems to have a certain slant to it. I will try and improve it at some point. David Lauder 16:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Strategical thinking/politics

This article would say more about the man if it included some of his ideas re: warfare and strategy, and went into his political ideas in more depth. I know that he wrote at length on these subjects, and they are relevant to his military career and his dabbling in post-war politics. I can't get a grip of the man based on this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.176.105.39 (talk) 15:35, 26 April 2007 (UTC).

Wasn't he a true militarist? A book I have read made references to a book he wrote called "On Totalitarian Warfare". From what I graps he believed war was the highest of all human activities. If this is true then it should be included. 75.161.227.86 (talk) 13:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 26 Oct

Article previously implied he left his wartimeposition in September - the portal:war anniversary list (based on October 26) stated today was his resignation date. Based on discussion with User talk:Kirill Lokshin amended text with material from Ludendorff(1920). Bridesmill 03:01, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harrr

Ludendorff was my great-grandfather's second cousin! I'm serious. Flexxx (talk) 13:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

And how does this "fact" contribute to the discussion about the improvement of the article? (Jesus was my uncle.) 195.50.204.247 (talk) 14:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)