Talk:Education in Hong Kong

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  • Clean-up pages that link with TVB, especially its series pages.

Contents

[edit] Moving

Should this be moved to Education in Hong Kong? --Jiang 07:27 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Big image

Would it be better to replace the big image with a simple table? --Lorenzarius 09:33 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Link removed

I've removed the link to Image:MainBldg.JPG which is not relevant. --Lorenzarius 12:31 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Revamped

Thanks to whoever revamped the look of the page... it looks much better.

Hopefully this page will become updated and useful soon (as I must immodestly admit that I brushed up a lot of the English as well as added a lot of other details myself).

- Jsw663

[edit] Just me

Just to let you all know the previous comment was by me

[edit] Template:Education infobox

I created a template, Template:Education infobox which can give a quick at a glance demographics table for education articles. See its implementation at Education in the United States and feel free to help improve the template.--naryathegreat | (talk) 01:00, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Joint School Organizations

In Hong Kong, and very possibly only in Hong Kong, there are registered Joint School Organizations set up by Secondary School Students. (Very few are set up by University students AND Secondary School Students.) I think we should add it into this article. --User:Splee

[edit] Most undergrads from China?

"In fact, most non-Hong Kong postgraduate and undergraduate students in local universities come from Mainland China." I strongly disagree about the claim that most undergrads are from Mainland China, that's just ridiculous. I've modified the sentence. 203.198.158.222 03:37, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnic Minorities Education

I am curious about having some information on the situation for ethnic minorities in Hong Kong. The NAC section does not suffice, the article does not acknowledge the fact that many non-chinese speaking minorities have very limited educational options. Also the schools that they attend are not on the main list of HK schools in Wikipedia. Although I know a fair bit about this I am not really up to speed with the situation. Furthermore it is quite topical over the last year in HK. Can someone assist.

--Peej 12:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major Cleanup March 2007

Some of my comments for future editors.

  1. Alot of details were too personal. This page is intended for international audiences around the world, not just people in HK.
  2. What happens in the household does not count toward the education system. In fact this can be a separate article all by itself.
  3. Comments such as "best school", "prestigious school" and "best rating" are opinions that should be on a separate article with actual statistical comparison. No school offers the "best of everything".
  4. On main pages like this, statistics usually need to be properly referenced. The cost $$$ items are left, because that can be verified and subject to change.
  5. Primary and Secondary school have their own page. I deleted large amounts of info in these section, since the article is well over KB size limit.
  6. Hei-Hang Hayes Tang (2002) http://sunzi.lib.hku.hk/hkuto/record/B29803810 is a good socialogy thesis, but too abstract for the mainpage. It is not in a wikipedia friendly/fact-only format. Copy pasting an entire article is also not recommended.

Benjwong 19:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with some directions because the fundamental purpose of an encyclopedia is to inform readers of subjects. There are things such as disciplinary actions that are unique to Asian schools that have no equivalents in the West and it is our jobs here to elaborate on these. I suggest they should be placed in the article school discipline. --JNZ 21:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC) Addition: I have no problem with the current edit BTW - it probably preserves most of the distinctive characteristics of HK education systems. --JNZ 21:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Much of the school discipline info did not come from me. What I added was minor stuff from personal experience years ago. But honestly not much. I think the kids who were here before me did all the talking. I just fixed grammar and wording for them. Benjwong 01:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Good job. We need a section about costs and fees. HK has compulsory education, but what do parents pay? Uniforms, lunches, books, incidental fees like field trips etc. Usually not all these costs are paid by parents of North American students. Would be nice to mention. --Kvasir 05:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing the Discipline Actions

IMHO actions are needed to edit the following sentence under the Discipline section:

There is a large discrepancy as to what behaviours are tolerated between different schools. Most schools would take note of theft, assault, or triad activities, while some schools are sensitive to more minor violations.

This edit fails to convey the meaning that some schools do not allow certain activities that are perfectly allowed in other schools in the territory, let alone the counterparts in the West. Fore example, no one at Auckland Grammar School would give a toss to bringing a magazine to school in order to pass this on to your friend provided you both don't read it during class, or putting on spectacles with thick frames, but both would be deep taboos for, say, Wah Yan College, let alone schools recognized as with strict rules like Carmel Pak U Secondary School. How do we convey this meaning? --JNZ 01:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I sat here thinking about how to reply to you, and I am stumped. Usually I have fast responses, but this is really tricky. I would like to inform people about HK education, but not to that level of "personal story" details. But if we keep it quiet, we are doing the students a disfavor. Tough one. Benjwong 02:03, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] reference please

I want to quote a few of the areas mentioned in this brilliant article. Does anyone know who wrote the original article and what date?

Thanks 88.108.153.15 19:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)Susie

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Number of universities?

On this page it says there are 8 universities in the city, however, the List of Schools in Hong KOng (link at bottom) lists 10 universities in Hong Kong. Are there 8 or 10?

Chewy 10:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citation

I've added a footnote (no. 5 at the moment) on the origins of the Hong Kong College of Medicine for Chinese. DOR (HK) (talk) 01:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)