Wikipedia talk:Editcountitis
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It doesn't matter how high you rank on the List. If it doesn't matter, then why does the list exist at all? It seems to me that since the list does exist, it must have some significance. Ranking people by the number of edits must be important to somebody --Barista | a/k/a マイケル | T/C 10:04, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
- The list exists because it's interesting, not because is significant. You can see the difference, surely? --Sn0wflake 19:45, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
- I look at it like Slashdot's karma or eBay's ranking system. It's a sort of validation of the user. The more edits a person has, the more likely it is that that person is making worthwhile contributions. It's good for stroking your own ego, even if it isn't something you could put on a resume. Still, I think the list is significant because it is interesting. Maybe it's just a list of useless statistics, but I think there are probably some people who put a lot of weight on how many edits a person has, regardless of quality. Anyway, Bcat's response was what I was going after - that made my day :-) --Barista | a/k/a マイケル | T/C 20:01, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
- When people want to count edits, they use Kate's tool, not the list. And they are rarely counted outside of WP:RfA, anyway. Not many actually bother with such trivial statistics. It's fun to see how high you rank on the list (I'm 700 or something close to that), but in the end of the day, nobody cares. Editcountitis is debated a lot, but in reality is far less widespread than people make it seem. It's merely a "OMG!!!!!!! It's teh danger! It's going to kill teh Wiki!" thing. --Sn0wflake 20:23, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
- I look at it like Slashdot's karma or eBay's ranking system. It's a sort of validation of the user. The more edits a person has, the more likely it is that that person is making worthwhile contributions. It's good for stroking your own ego, even if it isn't something you could put on a resume. Still, I think the list is significant because it is interesting. Maybe it's just a list of useless statistics, but I think there are probably some people who put a lot of weight on how many edits a person has, regardless of quality. Anyway, Bcat's response was what I was going after - that made my day :-) --Barista | a/k/a マイケル | T/C 20:01, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
- "however, it is very real. In fact, it can be fatal in its later stages"
How many fatalities have been documented that were directly attributable to editcountitis? - MPF 00:30, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Deletioncountitis
Thanks largely to the orphan talk pages project, images for deletion, and the new speedy deletion criteria for images, I've made use of the deletion button more than 12,000 times since becoming an admin a little over a month ago. *pounds delete button furiously* Coffee 16:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Nobody cares how many edits you've made.
Except when you're requesting an adminship, no matter how long you've been here for or how good your edits are. :D Comics 02:36, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- The "Seriously though" set of paragraphs is very reassuring, except it leads us with one problem. The "not a reliable way to tell how experienced... a user is", is untrue. Though I accept a user can have been on Wikipedia for a very short time and have accrued a vast number of edits, no user can make edits without accessing Wikipedia, and thus, technically, we must have been here for a greater period of time than any of our "Earliest edits" (a constant, but always useful, statistic on, for example, Kate's tools, or a user's individual "Earliest" button.) I believe this paragraph (not the one I'm writing, the one in the article :p) is misleading. Thoughts? Bobo192 05:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
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- You do not need to have an account to be able to edit the Wikipedia, thus the number of edits your acount has does not necessarily reflect your experience. Plus, a high number of edits may be the product of a lack of use of the preview button, persistent fixing of minor spelling errors, repeated edits to User space, etc. So yes, it's not a reliable way of telling whether the user is experienced or not, as an experienced user can generally be considered as somebody who knows most of Wikipedia's processes, rules and workings, and who has interacted with the community and forth. --Sn0wflake 02:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
- Not only that, I have seen users make billions of edits like removing a comma, adding it back in, removing it, adding it back in (see Craig Gannon). So while edit count might be an accurate way of measuring experience, it's not definitive, and can be influenced (I only stumbled upon Craig Gannon by accident, God knows if the user might have accumulated more tha 500 edits in a row had I not noticed and taken some action!). Deskana (talk) 20:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- In my experience, people don't usually do edits for no reason at all (editcountitis is effectively no reason at all since it's terribly under-stimulating, especially if you estimate a person's contributions based also the number of months they've edited, since people don't add and remove a comma for months on end). I think nearly everyone does edits because 1) they feel malevolence towards wikipedia for one reason or another (so they vandalize, which quickly becomes obvious on their talk page), 2) they're interested in at least one aspect of wikipedia (so they contribute to that area), or 3) they're bored, and repetitive stub-sorting or vandal-checking soothes them (which may be an easier way to rack up edits, but it's nonetheless a useful contribution that we couldn't get along without). --Interiot 22:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- I feel that the quality of the edits are more important than the quantity. Nevertheless, quantity also plays a part (like it or not). Some DO care about the number of QUALITY edits you have made. It reveals to us your commitment and desire to improve this massive project. --Siva1979Talk to me 10:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- In my experience, people don't usually do edits for no reason at all (editcountitis is effectively no reason at all since it's terribly under-stimulating, especially if you estimate a person's contributions based also the number of months they've edited, since people don't add and remove a comma for months on end). I think nearly everyone does edits because 1) they feel malevolence towards wikipedia for one reason or another (so they vandalize, which quickly becomes obvious on their talk page), 2) they're interested in at least one aspect of wikipedia (so they contribute to that area), or 3) they're bored, and repetitive stub-sorting or vandal-checking soothes them (which may be an easier way to rack up edits, but it's nonetheless a useful contribution that we couldn't get along without). --Interiot 22:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Not only that, I have seen users make billions of edits like removing a comma, adding it back in, removing it, adding it back in (see Craig Gannon). So while edit count might be an accurate way of measuring experience, it's not definitive, and can be influenced (I only stumbled upon Craig Gannon by accident, God knows if the user might have accumulated more tha 500 edits in a row had I not noticed and taken some action!). Deskana (talk) 20:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- You do not need to have an account to be able to edit the Wikipedia, thus the number of edits your acount has does not necessarily reflect your experience. Plus, a high number of edits may be the product of a lack of use of the preview button, persistent fixing of minor spelling errors, repeated edits to User space, etc. So yes, it's not a reliable way of telling whether the user is experienced or not, as an experienced user can generally be considered as somebody who knows most of Wikipedia's processes, rules and workings, and who has interacted with the community and forth. --Sn0wflake 02:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
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Oh, ha ha. Editcountis can be fatal. Kind of humour the teachers at my school use. Yancyfry jr 05:28, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Misspelling
The correct spelling of this article's title is editcountosis. Pcu123456789 01:27, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
- Any references for this? It is the first time I am reading this correct spelling. --Siva1979Talk to me 17:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Name change proposal
I suggest that for accuracy the name of this article should be changed to Editcountosis, as -itis suggests an inflammation, whereas -osis implies an increase. ;-)
Reference: Etymologicon -osis - "Condition, Process, Action; Increase; Formation." From the same in Latin and Greek. --apers0n 15:34, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- Well, i think it's a pun on Senioritis somewhat. -- Chris is me 23:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] No prize‽
Is there really no prize for getting loads of edits. Isn't the AutoWikiBrowser a type of prize? You need 500 (main) namespace edits to get registered. At time of writing, I had 165 edits in (main). Currently I have …. --
19:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I would also say that permission to vote in Wiki board elections might also be viewed as a prize. In most cases, I make a change by previewing, fixing the many typos I make and finally saving when I am sure everything is in order. Bad idea! It means I have less than 400 edits to my name, so I'm not worthy to cast a vote. Ringbark 17:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Editcountitis is becoming fatal to wikipedia in this way. That's why you should rightly be worried about it. Kim Bruning 03:20, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- But in the end, there needs to be some way sort of limited franchise for voting, in order to avoid the situation where supporters or detractors of a particular proposal (particularly in regards to deletions) flood a vote in order to receive the result they want. With which method other than edit counts would you propose for this purpose? Chairman S. Talk Contribs 07:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Votes with well-reasoned arguments should be paid attention to, no matter how few edits that user has. Votes with crappy or no arguments should not be listened to, no matter how many edits those users/sockpuppets have.
That is how it Should Work(tm). Obviously it is not how it always does work, but we should always strive towards that ideal.
It's called Editcountitis because that's the original term that was coined. Look up who User:Kate is/was, she developed Kate's Tools and became upset that people were using her tool to focus on edits as a measure of epeen. I think she was the one who came up with the word Editcountitis.74.61.41.118 04:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New article tool
Is there a tool that counts "new article" creation?--Appraiser (talk) 17:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- user:Interiot had such a tool that ran on toolserver (using an offline copy of the database), but he hasn't been active since July 11, 2007. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
