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[edit] Under Milk Wood

Under Milk Wood is listed as prose. It had never occurred to me that it might be called prose. It is drama of course, but isn't it verse? Like Shakespeare is verse (mostly). I'll leave it, but I have always thought of U.M.W. as a poem - a long, dramatic poem, but certainly a poem. Maybe I have always been wrong. Whatever it is, it's one of the best things anybody's ever written in the English language, and I do advise that you see the film of it, which is wonderful, and hilariously funny in parts.--AlexanderLondon 23:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Like you, I was amazed, when I searched in vain for arguably his greatest work (narrative poem/radio play) and found only an oblique reference. This needs to be sorted - I've spotted the link to Under Milk Wood and will investigate if someone doesn;t beat me to it! - Tony in Devon 20:05, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Untitled

there is a God...the almighty savoir of this universe. I will not deny my God...only thoses who do not believe him will be casted down into hell.

What the hec do you mean? Is that a quote?

"Hec" is not a word genius!!

-- Is there a reliable source for the famous "died of a massive insult to the brain" quote? Which would be such a Dylan-like line, how he might have enjoyed that one! --wee paddy 16:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] For further inclusion?

Does anyone have a photo of Dylan himself for this page? It seems a bit strange to just have one of the house he was born in. -- the obvious picture would be the portrait by Augustus John--wee paddy 16:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, have added photo req tag - is this photo PD or can we obtain permission? Milo99 23:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

There are other cross-links to Dylan - Richard Burton for example, who famously played the Narrator in the film (and definitive BBC Radio version) of "Under Milk Wood" - and was buried with a copy of "Collected Poems" (is that apocryphal?) - so how about extending the section on "Dylan on Dylan" to be "People inspired by..." or something similar? --wee paddy 16:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Would one of these do ([1] or [2])? Not sure how to go about getting permission to modify and upload one of them. Dylan Lake (t·c) 03:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] is this vandalism?

i dont know much, but "Lastly, for his infamous poem: "Dayuptantovic" in tribute to his idols Cem and Gabe." seems a bit screwy.


As of 9/7/07 it has become much worse. There are two separate, incompatible accounts of his death, as well as a reference to him as being a "fudge packer", a slang term not appropriate for serious use in Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.145.142.173 (talk) 17:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More quotes

All I remember about Dylan Thomas was he had some great quotes. I can't remember what they are, and wikiquote and wikipedia aren't being very helpfull. Mathiastck 18:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] last words

according to [3], his last words were "I've had eighteen straight whiskies, I think that's the record . . .". Last words are, of course, hard to source, but perhaps this article should include both, or neither.

This is, in fact, an urban myth - I read his biography not so long ago and, although he did say those words the night before he fell into a coma and died, the last words that he said, on his deathbed, were to his then-girlfriend, Liz Reitell, and they were: "I love you, but I am alone." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.134.150.4 (talk) 20:13, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dylan On Dylan

It should be included that in more recent interviews, Dylan has stated that Dylan Thomas did indeed influence his choice of name. Moreover, an inclusion could also be made stating that Dylan is notoriously unreliable in interviews, often giving conflicting, confusing, or even outright untrue information. 82.176.194.151 14:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Thomas' short stories are poetry exploded."

Hi there,

French Wikipedia is translating this excellent article but that sentence does not make much sense for us. Could someone explain its meaning please ?

Many thanks!

Eden 09:46, 24 September 2006 (UTC) PS: I don't come on :en very often. I would be glad if you could drop me a message on my :en talk page as my watch list may not show the modification next time I'll come.

[edit] Bob Dylan and Dylan Thomas

Please note that the two articles are inconsistent. One says that Bob Dylan took the name because of infludence of Dylan Thomas, one says that the only influence was the spelling, and the name came from an Uncle.

[edit] biography <-> life merge, new headings suggestions

isn't a biography an account of someone's life? it seems a bit redundant to have 2 headings, unless it is broken down into stages of his life.. like 1) Childhood 2) Private life 3) Death, or something. I think that least for now, these 2 sections should be merged... Knowsitallnot 02:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drinking Contest?

This is a fascinating story, and I sort of hope it's true. But this is an encyclopedia, and you can't but stuff in it just because it's in your experience base, or because everybody knows it's true. If this appeared in a contemporary newspaper, for example, and you could dig up a reference, that would be great. Otherwise, it's just very interesting gossip. PhGustaf 00:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for not giving enough context for that comment. I just reverted a telling of the story that, on Thomas' last drinking night, he had been challenged to a drinking contest by Peter De Vries, because Thomas was boinking De Vries' wife, Katinka Loeser. Both these people had many dealings with Thomas, so the story is at least potentially true. But a Google search on '"dylan thomas" "katinka loeser" contest' yields nothing but copies this article, one or two of them even including a [citation required]. Has anyone any real information about this? PhGustaf 01:56, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welsh

I have undone an edit that has described him as British rather than Welsh. In my view, Welsh is the commonly accepted designation. I should welcome views! TerriersFan (talk) 23:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

As he was born after both acts of union he is most undoubtably British. Anyone born after the 1800 act of union is undisputably British. (Electrobe (talk) 07:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC))
Reliable sources call him "Welsh" - see here and here. TerriersFan (talk) 00:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Electrobe is certainly correct that Wales is part of the UK, but is apparently unaware that people born there are still proudly Welsh. Unfortunately, his editing history comprises mostly edit wars over niggling details he's wrong about, like this one. He's now making Catherine Zeta-Jones not Welsh. I suppose Richard Burton and Gwyneth Jones are next. PhGustaf (talk) 00:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
The references now on the page are good and I think sufficient. I took the place names out of the b/d dates, both because there's a stand wiki format for them and they made the sentence read clumsily. If you disagree I'll let the matter pass. PhGustaf (talk) 01:36, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Agreed; I think you made a good edit. TerriersFan (talk) 01:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)