Talk:Dying Fetus
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I have known the guys in Fetus for 16 years now(John)and Sean I actually went to school with. I know all of their so called"influences" and if I had to catergerize them I personnally would call them one of the main innovators of Deathcore Grind. Theier original influences being in Death Metal with Grind and Hardcore/Mosh riffs.I believe they were pioneers to other bands of the same particular genre, ala All Shall Perish,Skinless,Misery Index,Soilent Green and even early Pungent Stench. They perfectly blend all of the elements mentioned in that category. They can be brutally Death oriented, they have some killer grind "parts" and they definately have some "stomp" riffs, which show there east coast hardcore roots a little. I believe that they basically created their on sound from all the extreme influences that embody them, making them quite original in their own right.
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[edit] Vocals
How would you classify Dying Fetus' vocals? Among "cookie-monster", I've never heard any band sing like they're burping. Some may say that "cookie-monster" vocals have no talent, but just try to sing like Dying Fetus. It's hard as shit.
I doesn't matter, its not important info, and "cookie-monster" or what ever shit isn't a real thing. It's called growling, but you could just say guttural vocals because they use a few different types.
[edit] right wing?
in how far did they take a step towards right-wing?
- Just compare the lyrics from Destroy the Opposition [1] and Stop at Nothing [2]. - Quirk 07:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Is it true Dying fetus has a strong base of satanism, paganism and morbid interests in their music lyrics? Sometimes are classified as metalcore and "extreme" metal, as well there are black metal and liquid metal fans of Dying Fetus. I doubt there's a left or right-wing basis in the songs, but the far-right NSBM (Nazi-Scandivanian Black Metal) has some similarity to many death metal or grindcore/hardcore bands. --207.200.116.134 09:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
lol...NSBM means NationalSocialistBlackMetal
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- This issue needs clarification - did they step towards the right wing or did they just become less left wing? The current wording is ambiguous.
Please make sure you are under the correct impression of "Satanism." I'm not saying it's a pleasant religion, persay, but it's rather misunderstood and often used in the wrong context. Luciferian is a better term for the religion overall, I believe. Just to clarify, I'm not critisizing (spelling?) just making a statement. Cheers Carsinmotion 06:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Dying Fetus' lyrics is strongly social and political with some inclusion of scenes of violence. Black/Death/Brutal Death/Grindcore/Goregrind differ technically. Maybe just Satanic Death Metal can be referred to metal genres that got their names because of lyrics. Black is very influenced by satanism, nevertheless it obviously differ from other metal genres. No Mercy To Anyone (talk) 21:19, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Are Dying Fetus a technical band?
The article lists them as being technically proficient, yet it has them down as brutal death metal.
I think this article should be considered for deletion.
Why? Because of one small mistake in the wording? Also, why are they no longer listed as a deathgrind band? It's kind of hard to not hear the grindcore influences in Dying Fetus's music. 131.128.150.116 15:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
The article could certainly use some clean up in the band description, but it doesn't warrant deletion. Fyrre 08:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
As a matter of fact, I am going to edit out "Since the band's start, Dying Fetus have made a name for themselves in the death metal scene by relentless shows and vigorous touring schedules, which has seen them victoriously climb the ladder to become one of the genre's top flight outfits. The group's signature sonic brutality has already affected a generation of death metal enthusiasts, and will undoubtedly continue to inspire generations to come." as it reads like an advertisement. If anyone disagrees please feel free to revert. Fyrre 08:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
IMHO, Dying Fetus is Death-Grind band, tagging them Technical band also isnt wrong, i listened to their whole discography and wrote this.
Well I guess you don't know what Deathgrind is, they definitely aren't. Brutal Truth, Napalm Death, and Terrorizer are Deathgrind. They started as a Brutal Death Metal band, but after the second cd, the music became more technical. Destroy The Opposition was Technical Brutal Death Metal, Stop At Nothing did not have much Grind influence at all, and War Of Attrition has the same style on Destroy The Opposition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.93.62 (talk) 02:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dying Fetus Demo
Not sure if anyone cares to add to the page, but DF has a demo from 1993 called "Bathe in Entrails" that contains 6 tracks: 1 - Bathe in Entrails 2 - Nocturnal Crucifixion 3 - Wretched Flesh Consumption 4 - Grotesque Impalement 5 - Vomiting the Fetal Embryo 6 - Tearing Inside the Womb
[edit] gay?
Someone named NickBachman changed the intro to say that they are all homosexual. I somehow doubt this is true, if he could give some proof i'll accept that, but as for now i'm deleting it.
Man, im quite sure, that hi's a retard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.156.250 (talk) 10:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Albums
Somebody made them really informative! The title of the Napalm Death song and album covered by Dying Fetus is "Scum" not "Skum". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.196.195.100 (talk) 18:35, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Members
All of the members should be merged into the main article. It will be better to have 1 big, really informative page than a bunch of little, incomplete ones. Dark Executioner 14:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner
[edit] Genre research
Dying Fetus (USA)
1998 Killing On Adrenaline Review > 8/10 - Richard - (Death Metal/Grindcore)
2003 Stop At Nothing Review > 9,5/10 - Stephen - (Death Metal/Grindcore)
2007 War Of Attrition Review > 9/10 - Stephen - (Grindcore/Death Metal)
http://www.metal-observer.com/search.php?q=Dying+Fetus&sa.x=58&sa.y=18
Death/Grind/Hardcore
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=45
Death Metal
http://www.bnrmetal.com/groups/dyfe.htm
Death Metal
Hardcore
Metal
http://www.rockdetector.com/artist,2821.sm
Death Metal
http://www.metalstorm.ee/bands/band.php?band_id=93&bandname=Dying%2BFetus
Death Metal
http://www.tartareandesire.com/bands/Dying_Fetus/544/
Death Metal/ Black Metal
Heavy Metal
Grindcore
Thrash
http://wc08.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gxfyxqtkldse~T0
brutal death metal death metal grind grindcore hardcore metal seen live technical death metal
http://www.last.fm/music/Dying+Fetus?q=Dying+Fetus
The most prominent ones are death metal and grindcore. I'll change them in the article. I think technical death metal or whatever genre isn't accurate. Kameejl (Talk) 14:48, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sean Beasley
I removed the line "Beasley is considered the best bassist of Brutal Metal in the USA ever."
It's an unacceptably POV statement and there is no citation to back up the claim that he is "considered" the best bassist of "brutal metal" in the USA ever. Who considers him the greatest? Just because one person thinks of him as the greatest bassist ever doesn't mean they can just throw that in and claim he's considered to be the best, like it's some widely-held opinion in the metal community.
No disrespect to Mr. Beasley, of course, he's a great musician, but that kind of statement doesn't belong in an encyclopedia entry. Pw33n (talk) 17:43, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Lyrics
Why is "pseudo"-political? Their texts contains commentary of social problems and definitely political themes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.140.47.56 (talk) 11:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] GA possibility
I am going to try to get this article up to GA (good article) status. Anyone w/ reliable sources and good info, are welcome to help out! Dark Executioner (talk) 16:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
