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Contents 1 Kannada literature in the Vijayanagara Empire 2 DYK 3 Raghavanka 4 DYK 5 KanakaDaasa photo 6 Compound word en dashes 7 DYK 8 FAC threading 9 Janna 10 WikiCookie 11 Question 12 Thanks 13 Kannada language 14 DYK 15 Some cite 16 Hey =) 17 DYK 18 Western Chalukya Empire 19 RFA Thanks 20 Harihareshwara Temple (Harihar) 21 Doddabasappa Temple 22 Tripurantaka Temple 23 Tripurantaka Temple DYK 24 Hindu Temples 25 Mahadeva Temple (Itagi) 26 great work 27 Congratulations on your latest featured article 28 Navalinga Temple 29 Siddhesvara Temple 30 Western Chalukya Empire images 31 Vithoba 32 Gunagangiyam

[edit] Kannada literature in the Vijayanagara Empire

Images looked pretty good; I took care of a few things:

• I added a complete tag to Image:Karnataka Hampi IMG 0730.jpg
• I found the original version of Image:Vijayanagara.jpg at te.wikipedia and uploaded to Commons.

Image:Purandara.jpg is the only problematic image, as it doesn't have proper source information (needed per WP:IUP). How can we confirm this is indeed in the public domain and not a (relatively) contemporary work? ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 00:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 1 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ratnakaravarni, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Royalbroil 00:40, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Raghavanka

On 3 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Raghavanka, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 18:13, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 5 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Harihara (poet), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--« Milk's Favorite Cookie ^{( talk / contribs)} 23:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] KanakaDaasa photo

Hi Dinesh, Please take look of the 'Image:Kanaka.jpg.' If it is OK with all we can post it with the article. Naadapriya (talk) 15:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Compound word en dashes

I don't know why compound words get en dashed in articles by some copyeditors; I don't do it. It's not required (or even mentioned) by the Wikipedia MoS, but it must be one of the standard writing styles. I think you can leave the words as they are, and let any reviewers who are bothered by it change to an en dash if they want, or request the change from you. Maybe the reviewer will be less likely to nitpick somewhere else if they are a part of catching a deviation from what they believe is correct. -- Michael Devore (talk) 18:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: circa. I have never been educated, at least that I remember, on the finer points of using circa. Unless a professional copyeditor tells you otherwise, I'd go with a firm date where a reference gives a firm date, and a circa or c. where the reference(s) also say circa or about. This approach gives you a reference to point to if someone bothers to question the exact date. FA content justification in a debate is very heavily dependent on references (as we've recently seen). You can always concede to adding a circa later on as a negotiating point, since it shouldn't be a big deal in a WP article. -- Michael Devore (talk) 18:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 7 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Andayya, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congrats! --Gatoclass (talk) 11:41, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FAC threading

I hope you see the benefit in keeper a cleaner, well threaded FAC; it improves the chances that others can read and understand, and will prevent it from turning into the lengthy threaded messes we've seen on some past FACs. Compare the effect on the reader of this to this. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes I do. Thanks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 18:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Janna

On 9 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Janna, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 02:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiCookie

Just stopping by with wikicookies for those editors who started new articles today. --Rosiestep (talk) 07:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the cookie.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

What is a power link ? Thanks Taprobanus (talk) 20:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the info Dinesh. I'm glad to see that the FAC is going well, barring one or two hollow objections. AreJay (talk) 17:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kannada language

Dinesh, with respect to this, the citation provided in the article is a dead link. I think my edit summary indicates that as well. Am not going to revert your reversion of my changes, but can you check and if possible, fix the link, please? Also, 2 of the links (to Deccanherald webpage) in the References section don't work, as well. --Madhu (talk) 21:07, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Will do gladly.thanks Dineshkannambadi (talk) 21:28, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Dinesh, I've fixed the probs with Jnanpith.net and the Deccanherald links. However, I have no idea what the intamm.com link is supposed to be. --Madhu (talk) 10:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I got busy over the weekend and could not deal with those links. The INTAMM link seems to be on and off but seems ok for me now. Perhaps we should remove that statement entirely from the article or find a book citation for it.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 11 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bhattakalanka Deva, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 02:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Some cite

I ran into this whikle doing search. It talks about certain Yadava dynasties supporting Kannada in Maharashtra in page 318 (in the notes section) . Just for your uinformation.Taprobanus (talk) 18:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey =)

Just wanted to say hi, hey. =]

[edit] DYK

On 13 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lakshmisha, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 09:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Western Chalukya Empire

The protection will expire in a matter of hours, so you can swap the refs then. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 22:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RFA Thanks

Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. It has been a pleasure working with you, DK. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best, Risker (talk) 14:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harihareshwara Temple (Harihar)

On 17 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Harihareshwara Temple (Harihar), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 01:19, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Doddabasappa Temple

On 18 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Doddabasappa Temple, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 04:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tripurantaka Temple

The hook fact is uncited. Please add a citation just after "These depictions are considered rare in Chalukyan art." in the article. --BorgQueen (talk) 03:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind, I reworded the hook. --BorgQueen (talk) 09:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tripurantaka Temple DYK

On 20 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tripurantaka Temple, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 10:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hindu Temples

Hi, you look like have good knowledge about temples. Can you suggest some reliable source about temple vanadalism by islamic invaders ? Jon Ascton (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 15:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, that sounds like an interesting topic. I look forward to your recommendations, too. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. This type of a topic is generally not written about by experts on architecture, who focus on the architectural aspect of it. However, time and again, some meagre information on temple desecration does crop up in these books, but only a few lines. I am not aware of any books dedicated to temple desecration by invaders. If I do come across something, I will let you know. thanks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mahadeva Temple (Itagi)

On 22 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mahadeva Temple (Itagi), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 02:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] great work

Hi Dineshkannambadi - I just want to congratulate you on the excellent articles you've written. I really enjoyed reading them, and I never imagined one could get exhaustive accounts of subjects like the Political history of medieval Karnataka anywhere on the internet. Vishnava _talk 13:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations on your latest featured article

[1] Glad to see it! Thanks for having invited me to participate. Risker (talk) 18:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

What wonderful news and thank you so much for your kindness in remembering me and my small contribution to the article's success, Keep up the good featured work, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats!! - KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk) 07:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Well done, and thanks for the BD wishes. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 and BLnguyen.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 14:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on another great featured article, and again demonstrating your talent for successfully navigating through the troubled waters thereto. -- Michael Devore (talk) 16:16, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Navalinga Temple

On 26 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Navalinga Temple, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 07:04, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Siddhesvara Temple

On 27 May 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Siddhesvara Temple, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 07:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Western Chalukya Empire images

I've transferred the images to Commons, removed the date tags and brightened a couple of them up. Is there anything else that needs doing? Papa November (talk) 13:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about the bot message. It's because I used CommonsHelper to move the images across to Commons. The message is essentially just telling people to check that the image was moved correctly. I'll get rid of the messages later, when I've checked the image pages properly. Papa November (talk) 13:41, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vithoba

I found references of Pundardasa's literature in praise of Vittala or Vithoba in Kannada literature. Is there any more devotional Kannada literature related to Vithoba? --Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. One of the previous editors has added in the lead "A very substantial segment of spiritual literature in the Marathi and Kannada languages is dedicated to Vithoba." I found a large segment in Marathi, but nothing except Purandardas' in Kannada. If you come across any such literature, please add it to the article.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 12:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 13:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gunagangiyam

Hi Dinesh. Just a very small note - the references to Gunagangiyam are actually in Gunasagarar's commentary to Amitasagarar's Yapparungalakkarikai, not in the text itself. Gunasagarar was a pupil of Amitasagarar, so it doesn't make much difference to the dating, but I though you might want to know for the sake of accuracy. (It's mentioned in Kannada literature and Extinct Kannada literature)

On a totally different point, while reading an article by Sheldon Pollock's on the death of Sanskrit literary culture, I found the following rather startling claim about the lack of courtly support for Kannada during the Vijayanagara period:

"Literary production at the (Vijayanagara) court during these three and one-half centuries was largely restricted to Telugu, Tamil, and Sanskrit. It is a striking fact that, though ruled by men who belonged to Tulu- or Kannada-speaking lineages for much of this period, the Vijayanagara state seems to have done little to promote the production of courtly Kannada literature. Krishnadevaraya (r. 1509–29), the "Karnata" king as he is consistently called (Karnata being a Sanskritized form of Kannada), may have had at court a Kannada poet, Timmannakavi, but Timmanna's one accomplishment was to complete Kumaravyasa's enormously popular Kannada Bharata of the preceding century (and ineffectively at that, in the eyes of Kannada literary historians). The emperor himself used Telugu for his most important literary-political work, the Amuktamalyada. This is not to say that Kannada literary culture outside the court did not show considerable vitality during this period, at least when we consider the production of the poetsingers of the Madhva religious order, such as Purandaradasa and Kanakadasa, and Srıvaishnava poets like Laksmısa, author of one of the most popular Kannada literary works before the modern period, the Jaimini Bharat. It is in fact the very vitality of that culture that makes the penury of courtly production so manifest." (See The Death of Sanskrit), the section starts on p. 400)

This is quite contrary to what I've always understood, which was that the Vijayanagara kings actively patronised (and indeed, even wrote) Kannada literature. Do you know whether Pollock's view is generally accepted, and are there any sources you could recommend which discuss it? This is just for personal curiosity, it has nothing whatsover to do with Wiki. -- Arvind (talk) 11:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I would surmise that these views are perhaps Sheldon's personal opinions, not very supported by literary evidence (much like his opinions on pre-Kavirajamarga Kannada literature) or broad scholarly opinion considering the rule of Devararaya II was considered an important period of Kannada literature. In fact, as far as I am aware, apart from one or two Tamil poets supported by Krishnadevaraya, Tamil literature in Vijayanagara, the royal capital, is virtually non-existant and mostly relegated to local provincial courts of Tamil Nayakas. However, Sheldon also notes, rightly so, that it was during the rule of Krishnadevaraya that Kannada took a back stage to Telugu and this is widely accepted. Ofcourse, it was in the area of non-courtly literature (Haridasas, Lakshmisa, Sarvagnya) that Kannada literature set many trends. Not to forget, the kings gained their legitimacy through the Sringeri order initially and later through the Madhva religious order and this is widely accepted. Apart from Thimmana Kavi, Chatu Vitthalanatha was also supported by Krishnadevaraya.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

That ties in with what I've always thought. Thanks a lot for the quick answer. -- Arvind (talk) 12:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I will look into the Gunagangiyam issue tonight.Thanks. Dineshkannambadi (talk) 13:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)