Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 February 5

BoyBand (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

Procedural request as closing admin. A user has stated that they think the deletion of this page was not proper. Since it had low participation I would not be terribly opposed to relisting it, but I believe it is a hopeless cause, so I suppose a discussion here is the right way to go, because from the user's comments, I am certain that even after a relist xe will not be satisfied with a delete outcome. JERRY ^talk _contribs 18:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I am including the user's comment from my talk page below:

Jerry, BoyBand is not a 'hoax' as you refer to it as - if you google it, you will see BoyBand on the E4 (channel 4 UK) website - futhermore, Their new MySpace is just taking off and again, is no hoax - the deletion of the page was wrong - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jontihaben (talk • contribs) 17:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

This deleted page will be reported on the grounds it is un-necessary and wrong to delete valid pages, removing wanted information from the public, and not abiding with the Wikipedia notion of free encyclopedia information - deletion of a valid entry is discrimination against information that may not be in interest of yourself, and you therefore assume that if not on the internet (which it is if you google it), it is not valid information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jontihaben (talk • contribs) 17:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Above comments added from User talk:Jerry from discussion prior to procedural delrev. JERRY ^talk _contribs 18:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

• Can't see how it could have been closed differently, a bit of googling for +BoyBand and the individual group member names (4 searches) shows up bebo, myspace and the Channel4 page from the AFD, none of which contain enough information or are relible for the purposes of writing an article. They prove little more than existance. Indeed searching for the more likely to be unique name "Alex Piers Oldaker" returns the same very small result set. --81.104.39.63 (talk) 18:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• endorse close per anon above. JoshuaZ (talk) 18:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy endorse. The debate had low participation, but not so little that it looks like the issue didn't get the attention it deserved. We should only extend this debate if there is some relevant information not available during the debate that we can consider. Mangojuice^talk 19:00, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse, chartstats.com has no record of this band, nor of their singles "Truly Madly Deeply" (although that was a hit for Savage Garden and also a couple of other bands charted singles under that name [1][2]) or "God in Disguise", and that site definitely has UK singles charts covered for the 2005-06 period that this band was allegedly active, so I'm very dubious about this "hit single" claim on the Channel4 website. --Stormie (talk) 22:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse and speedy close. The page on the Channel4 website is part of their MyBand/4Unsigned section—where anyone can set up a profile for their band (or "band", as the case may be). The text on that page was not written by an employee of Ch4, it was the anon who set up the profile. And did anyone actually listen to the song? The whole thing is an obvious piss-take. Precious Roy (talk) 01:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I didn't listen to the song because I'm at work. Nice one! --Stormie (talk) 06:03, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Colour Revolt (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

Also Colour revolt. Both titles are protected after an AfD from way back before they were actually popular and a ton of A7/G12 speedies. In the past year or so, they've made a big splash; see All Music Guide ([3]), Pop Matters ([4]), SPIN ([5]), Paste Magazine ([6]), etc etc etc. Google will give you plenty more. I would like to have these titles Unprotected so I can write a decent sourced article. Chubbles (talk) 17:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Negba (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

This article about a kibbutz in Israel was deleted in 2006 by administrator User:Lucky 6.9, who did not give a reason in the deletion summary. I am working to complete Wikipedia's coverage of kibbutzim in Israel, and I am ready to write this article. I do not want to be credited as the first author if there was someone who wrote the article before me, and there may be information that I don't have in my sources. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 03:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

• Restore. If you have adequate sources to write the article, this ought to be an uncontroversial request to restore the old revisions. --JayHenry (talk) 04:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• There was only a single edit (by User:Kupojsin) prior to deletion, his content was: "Kibbutz Negba was formed in 1934. It is located north of the Negev Desert. It played a decisive role in the Israeli War of Independence of 1948." --Stormie (talk) 04:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• Restore. I see no reason why it was deleted at the time. There was enough content and context to avoid A1 and A3, and the claim that this kibbutz "played a decisive role in the Israeli War of Independence of 1948" is sufficient to avoid A7, which btw has never applied to kibbutzim. I think a kibbutz qualifies as a town/village/city/settlement, which are by definition notable enough for Wikipedia. Aecis^Brievenbus 13:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• Restore Yes, Kibbutzim are like villages--inhabited geographic places, and always notable. I notice the admin deleted single-handed, without a prior tagging by someone else. it's better to have two sets of eyes. DGG (talk) 14:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)