Template talk:Deadend

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This template is used on ~2000 pages on the dead-end pages list. Please be careful when making major edits, as it will go into affect on a large number of pages.

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[edit] General Discussion

Please discuss this template here. If you are suggesting something, BE BOLD and change it yourself! But also mention it here so others know what happens. You do NOT need permission to change this, even though it is in my userspace. I do not own this page. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 23:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I did some changes - in particular removed the "you can edit without knowing the subject" tag. We don't want completely indiscriminate links - even though I edit a lot of articles I don't know much about, I know *something* that lets me evaluate the articles. Do you think that the bot should place this on all deadend pages? --Alvestrand 00:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
At least for now, no. Once this template gets to a reasonable quality, I may consider asking for opinions on the DEP talk page, and if its liked I will move into the template namespace and put forward a BRFA to get approval. For now, i'm just trying to build a good template. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 00:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I also added another line regarding wikify, i'm almost completely certain my wording is horrible, so could someone else better at wording tidy it up? Thanks! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 00:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Looks good to me. There was a discussion a while back about adding a tag / category to the DEPages, and not much consensus was reached. I've come to think lately that adding a template / category to the pages with a bot would be a good idea -- we've lost some active editors lately, and if tagging the pages can help draw others in to get them done, so much the better.--Kathy A. 12:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should this be used

Can I please get a vote on whether or not this should be added to DEP pages? It would help attract more editors, and provide a better method of keeping track. (using a category, which I am going to be adding soon).

clarification: do you mean "should this be added automatically using a bot to the DEP pages?" --Alvestrand 05:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
This discussion is for the template itself. Whether a bot should do it is something I will discuss later. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 03:29, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Support

[edit] Oppose

[edit] Comments

  • We must certainly have something like this. I can't believe it didn't exist before. I find the proposed text satisfactory. Magioladitis 09:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm indifferent. I think the DEP pages are a better way of keeping track than a category, because they allow us to keep notes in the list, and you can tell that you're progressing (between uploads). But I don't mind. --Alvestrand 02:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
As a reply to this, its ideally for attracting people to it and letting people know they can fix it. At the moment there are not many people doing this, and it isn't that difficult (yes you can argue with that, but normally no) to fix a dead end page. Plus it also means we have a large category with it all in it, so we can better keep track of the total count. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 03:29, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Bot

I'm putting forward a BRFA to get my bot to add this template to dead end pages. If anyone has any objections, please say so on that page. (Transcluded onto WP:BRFA) Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 00:18, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Approved, and now live. This template is on approx 2000 pages. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 07:25, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I do most of my DEP work with AWB, and then once or twice a week use my regular browser to see what items on the list can be removed. When I fix a DEP that has this template in it, it seems like I should remove the tag. Do I also need to immediately jump into a browser to remove it from the DEP list (to avoid having the bot place a new tag on it), or is the bot smart enough to see that links have been added? Thanks! --Kathy A. 17:18, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed a line

I removed the line saying to add other tags such as "wikify" to deadend articles. Experienced DEP workers know that almost all DEPs need cleanup/wikify, so I'd prefer to avoid template creep. Shalom Hello 15:28, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What's the difference?

What's the difference beetween {{wikify}} and {{deadend}}? Kubek15 (Sign!) (Contribs) (UBX) 10:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Deadend refers only to the lack of links, while wikifying also includes making the title bold, adding sections, formatting lists, etc. If an article is fully wikified, it wouldn't be a deadend. So why have both templates? Two reasons. If the article is otherwise wikified and only lacks links, deadend is more specific. Also, the deadend template includes a link to Nickj's tool for adding links, so having both the wikify and deadend templates on an article can be helpful.--Fabrictramp (talk) 15:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)