Talk:Darrell S. Cole

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Darrell S. Cole was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Reviewed version: May 1, 2008

Darrell S. Cole was nominated for good article reassessment to determine whether or not it met the good article criteria and so can be listed as a good article. The article was not listed as a GA. Please see the archived discussion for further information.
Discussion ended: 01:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] GA-Fail

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

I'm very sorry, but I am going to have to fail this article. For one, there is a very large lack of references, and the format just isn't appealing. (All caps, large mass of text). Fix the problems, and then renominate. Cheers, ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ Drop me a line§ 03:36, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

(criteria 2) I don't agree with this, the references are valid and the information is noted with inline citations. If there are areas missing please let me know what they are and I will fix them.--Kumioko (talk) 17:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
But you need to specific and tell us which section uses which reference. Simply dumping a list of references at the end of the article without citing which facts are obtained from which reference doesn't help at all. OhanaUnitedTalk page 19:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
(critera 3) I need to know what its missing here, the fact is he was young when he died and without adding unnecessary fluff to the article their isn't anything missing in my opinion.--Kumioko (talk) 17:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
(criteria 6b) There isn't a problem here either, this is only recommended for GA articles AND the sources are US Government and not subject to copyright.--Kumioko (talk) 17:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree the images are fine, and the lack of inlines is not the main problem: the GA process has an unfortunate history of focussing on them. The real issue is the quality of the sources, in this case independent verifiability from a reliable secondary source. See my comments at the reassessment discussion. Geometry guy 12:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)