Talk:Dances with Wolves

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	Film Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Films. This project is a central gathering of editors working to build comprehensive and detailed articles for film topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
Start This article has been rated as Start-Class on the quality scale. ??? This article has not yet received a rating on the priority scale.
Editing Guidelines Please remember these guidelines when editing a film article: If a non-film article already exists with the name of the film that you are trying to create an article for, disambiguate and use (film) in the title: Film Title (film) For more information see: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films) When writing an article about a particular film, the general format should be a concise lead section, followed by a plot summary of no more than 900 words, production details, a cast list, a reception section, and references. Create an Infobox that tells all pertinent information about the film.
Additional Information: This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-Class status: Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar: not checked Supporting materials: not checked To fill out this checklist, please add the following to the template call: <!-- 1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points are appropriately cited. --> |B-Class-1=yes/no <!-- 2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain major omissions or inaccuracies. --> |B-Class-2=yes/no <!-- 3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. --> |B-Class-3=yes/no <!-- 4. It is free from major grammatical errors. --> |B-Class-4=yes/no <!-- 5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. --> |B-Class-5=yes/no

	United States Portal This article is within the scope of the United States WikiProject. This project provides a central approach to United States-related subjects on Wikipedia. Please participate by editing the article, and help us assess and improve articles to good and 1.0 standards.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the Project's quality scale. Please rate the article and then leave a short summary here to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article.

	This page is within the scope of WikiProject South Dakota, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to articles on South Dakota on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the Project's quality scale. (If you rated the article please give a short summary at comments to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses.)

	This article is part of WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America, which collaborates on Native American, First Nations, Inuit, Métis and related subjects on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
???	This article has not yet been rated on the assessment scale.
Suggested article edit guidelines: To help us prioritise our workload, and in readiness for Wikipedia:1.0, we need to assess our articles for Quality. If this article is Unassessed, please assess it. See the Article Classification for instructions. If you disagree with a rating, you can change it or discuss it at Article Classification. Before assessing this article, be sure to check the existing Archive of assessments made under the previous system (used until July 2006), and feel free to help in migrating the existing comments besides from adding your own evaluation. After assessing this article's quality, please make sure it to add it to the Lists at Article Classification, following the grading scheme detailed there.
Please rate this article and leave comments here to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article.

Contents 1 Quotes 2 kevin's gate 3 Lakota language in the movie 4 change sioux to lakotta 5 Fair use rationale for Image:Dances with Wolves poster.jpg 6 Languages

[edit] Quotes

There are some extremely humerous quotes in the film that were left out of the article. I request that someone please put them in.

Try wikipedia's sister site, www.wikiquote.org. That site is made for quotes. Demoman87 (talk) 17:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] kevin's gate

the article for "heaven's gate" says that waterworld was nicknamed "kevin's gate" because of the giant budget and bad reviews. this article says dances with wolves had the same nickname due to low confidence in western epics, post heaven's gate--was it dances w/wolves, or waterworld, or both? 76.217.120.247 16:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lakota language in the movie

What was the point of having all the Lakota people speak the feminine version of the Lakota language instead of having both the masculine and the feminine versions in the movie? I suppose all the actors were able to speak and understand both versions of the language. I am not satisfied with the explanation given in the article (the filmmakers decided to simplify the language).

ICE77 -- 84.222.103.163 21:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I too wondered about the reason for using one gender in the language. But I'm not certain all the actors who needed to speak Lakotan were in fact of that tribe. In Hollywood, an "Indian-is-an-Indian-is-an-Indian". And of the younger Indians, theres no guarantee they speak their tribal language at all, in the first place. So simplifying it to english standards was what they were after....Kind of a shame IMO, though. Engr105th (talk) 04:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

It seemed to me that both versions were used. For example, men end their sentences with "yelo" to indicate a statement and "huwo" to indicate a question. Women end their sentences with either "ye" (statement) or "he" (question). The best example I can remember is when Stands With A Fist refuses to speak English. Kicking Bird's wife is talking to him and uses "he". The word "yelo" can be heard throughout. For example, when Wind In His Hair turns back from the horse-stealing party and yells at Lt. Dunbar. Ζρς ι'β' ^¡hábleme! 16:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] change sioux to lakotta

sioux means cut throat it is not actualy a lakotta word it is what other tribes called the lakotta —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.193.199.153 (talk) 03:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC) That's strange, because some Lakota told me Sioux means "snake". It's however a wrong naming altogether. The Sioux should be called Lakota, the Navajo Dineh and the Aztecs Mexica. That would be more respectful towards them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.162.133.112 (talk) 17:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

The word "Sioux" in my understanding originated from their Saulteaux enemies who meant it as a slur (the meaning is "snake").

Sioux can refer to any of the peoples whose native tongue is Lakota, Dakota, or Nakota. Sioux is a more general term referring to all of these people collectively. To specify a certain division, any of the preceding terms can be use. Ζρς ι'β' ^¡hábleme! 16:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Dances with Wolves poster.jpg

Image:Dances with Wolves poster.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 19:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Languages

It seems that the Pawnee language is used in the movie. I went ahead and added it; if this is erroneous, delete it. I think the use of this language occurs just before Timmons gets killed. When the Indians see the smoke from his fire, they discuss what to do. That is not the Lakota language. Ζρς ι'β' ^¡hábleme! 16:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Never mind. According to [1], the Pawnee language is implemented. Ζρς ι'β' ^¡hábleme! 18:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)