Talk:Damien Rice

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[edit] Duration of 9(LP)

Someone should put the duration of the songs of the album "9", I can't because I don't have the CD, Yet.

[edit] The Mercury Prize...

The Mercury Prize page doesn't say 'O' won their prize for 2003. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gargletheape (talk • contribs)

Good catch! An editor changed that a few weeks ago from Shortlist Music Prize. I can see the confusion since the Mercury Prize issues a "shortlist" of finalists, but Rice and O were never included. --Dhartung | Talk 05:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Why was the comment about Britney Spears and Colin Farrell talking at his show removed?

Why do people (probably the same editor) keep adding this without even bothering to use a proper cite? I think it's funny but trivial. If it appears again it will be immediately removed. --Dhartung | Talk 18:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing the bit about Rice's Law: if you search for this group on Facebook, you get the following, from the game's creators themselves: 'This is, as would appear, a vain attempt at inventing a daft game in order to verify something we added to Ricey's Wikipedia page when we were drunk.' See WP:NOT. eiscir 17:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Pshaw, not even worth discussing. Just remove future nonsense edits with an edit summary. --Dhartung | Talk 20:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing the recent reference to Rice's "momma smurf" and "pappa smurf" parentage. I think it very unlikely that two smurfs could beget such a (physically) normal child. Cobun 21:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Style

This article should at least give some minimal description to the style of his music. Badagnani 07:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


Well, I'll put something basic. Feel free to tweak it. It's my first day on Wikipedia, and I doubt I'm going to instantly be a great writer for it. ;P

[ Attached to the statement after saying he is an Irish folksinger ] Damien Rice's song writing style generally consists of an entire song only having three or four chords, meaning his rhythm guitar is notably basic. However, in most of his songs, Damien Rice has a series of hammer ons, making the riffs sound more interesting. Damien Rice rarely writes a song that isn't vocally driven, meaning that his singing parts are often far from monotonous, and often embrace his high singing range. He is also known for including a developed cello part in most of his songs.

I don't really know what you'd look for. Feel free to ask me about it. All I live for is Damien, and I know all of his songs by heart and perform them (both the guitar / vocal parts) frequently. I'd be able to help get info, I'm just not sure how to present it... or even WHAT to present. I really want to spiff this page up... Charlie55744 05:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Opening paragraph

the first paragraph is not fact it is oppinion. in my oppinion he is known better by his songs being in 'the oc' in their first series. Kevlar69er 20:26, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean his O/9 thing? I think it's pretty safe. I mean, yeah, it was kinda popular from OC, but then also from Closer, and also from Grey's Anatomy, and Lost, etc. Why did someone take out the 2 or so paragraphs showing all the TV shows and movies he starred in? We need those back. The opening statement should just let us know that his singles and B-Sides CD weren't his most popular things, and that O and 9 are representitve of him. Charlie55744 05:42, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Singles

It says that 9 Crimes is featuring Lisa Hannigan but that she's uncredited, and then in the biography, it says she's a part of the band... suggestions? Abcdemily 02:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

She is a part of the band, credited in the other albums. Apparently, not the single. I haven't verified if she was uncredited in the single, however. Charlie55744 05:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] taper friendly?

Rice is in the "taper friendly" category. Anyone have a reference for this? --Allen 22:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Should be removed as we have already said in his own article that he doesn't like to be recorded or even photographed.

[edit] New edit to biography

Someone needs to add a reference to the last paragraph from the biography section. It discusses the split of one of his inging partners and appears to be taken word for word from Damien Rice's website.

[edit] Collaborations?

Can anyone explain why some of the collaborations are mentioned, specifically 'Burn The Maps', 'Skylarkin' and 'The Swell Season', because I'm almost sure he had nothing to do with either album, neither do the album's Wiki pages mention him. I'll remove them unless someone knows why. Phantompie

Lisa stars in them. Lisa is, or, perhaps, WAS, part of the band "Damien Rice" He probably plays guitar as well, considering he plays guitar back up for everything she sings... 69.19.14.19 07:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Damien Rice (Band)?

69.19.14.19 above pointed out that Lisa was a part of Damien's band... So this made me wonder, should there be a Damien Rice (band) and include information on members? I see there are pages for people who are listed as being part of the Damien Rice act (Lisa Hannigan, Shane Fitzsimons, Tom Osander, Vyvienne Long, etc.) but I see no place where the people who play with Damien Rice are listed/discussed together as part of Damien Rice (band)... Other than the small paragraph in his career section. Someone let me know if I am totally off base here, it just seams with Damien Rice being a band named after the artist that a true distinctions should be made, and Damien Rice would have the associated acts of Juniper (band) and Damien Rice (band). Like Dave Matthews has Dave Matthews Band and for his "solo work" Dave Matthews & Friends but if you goto this solo album Some Devil it is still associated with just Dave Matthews. --65.27.208.196 07:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

I'm sick of looking for actors and such and finding pictures that are oh-so-small or blurry or "We don't have a free picture, do you have one?" just for the sake of free-use no-copyright bullshit. I know it's some legal mumbojumbo but it defeats the whole purpose of creating this free encyclopaedia. If people can quote a text and reference it at the end, why can't we use publication photos or whatever that are obviously clearer (think IMDB) for the sake of clarity and just reference or link where we get the photos from? This would be so much better (for Wikipedia itself, too) rather than using some dodgy fan-submitted pictures taken by an amateur.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Z3088065 (talk • contribs) 15:39, 7 August 2007.

I have, of course, reverted the change and nominated the image for deletion because it's not free. Like you said, we are trying to build a free encyclopaedia, not one based on stolen pictures owned by someone who didn't release it under one of the necessary creative commons licenses.--Svetovid 21:33, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, STEALING would be to use the photo without properly referencing it or acknowledging the copyright owner. Besides, as I previously said, it would be beneficial for both the individual in the photo and Wikipedia itself to have a proper photo. On other pages, pictures of book covers or promotional movie posters ("scaled down, low-res") are allowed to be used for similar reasons. I don't see how such a purpose would be detrimental towards the copyright owner. If anything, they gain more recognition, be it the artist or the photographer, whoever has the copyright to the photo. STEALING would be if one uploads someone else's photo and claims it as their own without properly acknowledging the owner.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Z3088065 (talk • contribs) 06:07, 8 August 2007.

First, sign your comments with ~~~~ after the post. Second, please move your copyright/fair use related debate to elsewhere.
What you are mainly talking about is fair use, and such images cannot be uploaded to Commons, only to Wikipedia with the appropriate copyright tag and fair use rationale.
However, it's always better to use a free image (from Commons) than a fair-use image because, as you mentioned, we want to build a free encyclopaedia, not a fair-use one.--Svetovid 11:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gig at rock werchter

Among his 2007 appearances his gig at Rock Werchter on the 1st of July should be added because Roch Werchter has in the last couple of years been voted best festival of the world thrice by the ILMC so it's big and good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snelleeddy (talk • contribs) 22:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In popular culture

Don't people think this 'in popular culture' paragraph is a bit too long and hard to read? I suggest we make it a list of songs and where they're featured. If everyone's happy I'll do that. Jing.t86 21:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)