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Contents 1 DYK 2 pic of georgetown 3 G'town pics 4 a "thanks", a question, and a bit more 5 14th Street 6 16th Street 7 Philadelphia Request 8 Metrobus Image 9 Ten-Day War rewrite 10 DC streets 11 Rangers 12 DuctoMan16 13 DuctoMan16 14 DuctoMan16 15 Theodore Roosevelt Island 16 Nathaniel Hedge 17 D.C. United Stadium capacity 18 IUCN category and NPS Memorials 19 Judith Haspel 20 Image copyright problem with Image:JerseyCityFlag.jpg 21 Image Tagging for Image:MajorityMuslemNations.png 22 Alternative History as a Mode of Science Fiction 23 Columbus/Columbia in Washington, DC 24 United States Women's National Team page 25 Bruford 26 Double/treble 27 Removal of links to photos 28 Safelibraries RFC 29 Talk:Bow tie 30 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 31 h 32 Freddy Adu's number

DYK

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pic of georgetown

I noticed you wanted some pics of G-town. I go through there on a regulr basis - any particular picture or style you want? Should I try to get an older-stle house, or maybe focus on a whole block. Maybe the old stone house would be appropriate. Let me know what you're looking for and I'll just bring my camera with me next time I'm there. --Bachrach44 19:31, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. The dome is a good idea, and I honestly wouldn't have thought it if you hadn't mentioned it. I'll probably be down at that end of town on Sunday and snap some pics then. --Bachrach44 01:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

G'town pics

Sorry it took me so long to get around to uploading these, but I have a few pics I took of Georgetown. None of them are great since it was a bit overcast the day I went out, but you might be able to use some of them.

• the bank on M & Wisconsin
• stores on M St
• M St. NW in Washington DC

--Bachrach44 19:59, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

a "thanks", a question, and a bit more

Hi D: I stepped away from my computer at the request of my wife just after posting a large addition to National Building Museum and was surprised and delighted to discover your edits by the time I got back. That's the thanks. The question is this. i posted about the same section at Montgomery Meigs - the architect of the building, and at Caspar Buberl the sculptor. No, you don't have to edit all those too, but you can if you wish, but do you think that it is too redundant? The section fits in all three and if someone were to look up just that article, it should be there . . . .... but ? I was going to go looking for an Administrator to pose this question to, but you appeared, and really I'm looking for an opinion from someone that I can trust and having seen your editing of my writing, well I trust you. So, have an opinion? Carptrash 05:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

14th Street

The problem is that the article talks about both 14th Streets, when it should be split into separate articles about each. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 00:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

There is no change in 14th Street West as you cross the dividing line in the middle of the Mall. Why then should there be separate articles about 14th Street SW and NW? --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 00:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:14th Street (Washington, D.C.)

16th Street

There is nothing wrong with linking to "pages that don't exist"; eventually someone will put an article there. I also have issues with moving the article to 16th Street Northwest. In this case, there is no 16th Street Southwest, but what would you do with an article about 16th Street Northeast and Southeast? These are both part of the same street, and so there is no sense in making two separate articles. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 00:35, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the red text lets you know that the article does not exist. Disambiguation pages often have red links. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 01:24, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Philadelphia Request

Hi,

I would appreciate you looking at this page and making some comments in favor of the merger.

Category talk:Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Thanks! evrik 16:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Metrobus Image

In the image of a Metrobus (Image:MetrobusDC.jpg) that you placed in the Washington Metro article, your caption reads as such: "Metro in recent years has been replacing diesel-powered buses with vehicles that run on natural gas to improve local air quality." Your image shows bus #9742, a Flxible Metro-D, which runs on diesel fuel. Did you intend to show a diesel bus while discussing buses running natural gas, or was this a mistake?

Please let me know what the case may be. BTW, the only natural gas buses in Metro's fleet are the New Flyer C40LF buses, and also the new Orion VII low-floor buses. SchuminWeb (Talk) 22:51, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Ten-Day War rewrite

I've completely rewritten and expanded the article on the Ten-Day War. Let me know what you think! -- ChrisO 23:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

DC streets

An AfD that you recently particpated in has been recycled. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of state-named Avenues in Washington, D.C. (second nomination). - brenneman^(t)(c) 05:35, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Rangers

Yeah :), but I don't even watch hockey that much. The only real reason that I put that I am a Rangers fan is because my brother is a Devils fan and we have pretty much made this kind of unspoken deal between each other that we support rival teams.-Jersey Devil 04:07, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

DuctoMan16

Please stop editing my page. You have been added to my enemies list.

DuctoMan16

Don't worry, my enemies list was just a joke. I am restarting my talk page. By the way, how do you insert a new line in the editing window?

DuctoMan 17:49, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

DuctoMan16

I looked at the wiki editing article, I was talking about the `br`
command

Theodore Roosevelt Island

I mentioned your desire for a pic of the T.R. Island statue to a friend, and he was able to provide one (but not before someone else had added another nice image). One to take off of your list. I'll try to take care of some of the other D.C. pics from your wishlist as I can. --JohnPomeranz 04:12, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Nathaniel Hedge

Thanks for correction to article title Nathaniel Hedge. Davidbober 20:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

D.C. United Stadium capacity

I was actually a bit low (by 1000 seats accidentally) when putting in the number of seats D.C. plans to have in their new stadium. It'll be a 25,000 seater, not a 27,000 seater. Take a look at this fairly new Washington Post article. *D.C. United's new Home

Schiesse! Looks like I forgot to check the date on that source! Looks like you were right, although I have seen sources quoting everything from 24,000, to 25,000, to 27,000, and 30,000 seats. Based on the most recent source being 27,000 seats, I chose to correct the page to that level. Somebody put down the expected capacity at 30,000, which isn't supported by anything reliable I've read. I wish they'd (D.C. United) would put out a finalized announcement, because the sources I've seen are all over the board on everything from capacity to costs. Drakeguy 22:29, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

IUCN category and NPS Memorials

I just noticed the removal of the IUCN category for African American Civil War Memorial. In practice, for the few National Memorials categorized in the IUCN database, they all come up as "V". See: Wright Brothers National Memorial, Mount Rushmore National Memorial, Fort Clatsop National Memorial (now Lewis & Clark NHP), and Coronado National Memorial. After looking up several dozen sites in the database, I have pretty much been treating "V" as the default category for any otherwise unset historic area (or even recreational area) that does not allow resource extraction. — Eoghanacht ^talk 21:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

No harm leaving it blank for now. But one way of looking at "over time", however, is the 140 years of cultural reflection inherent in a new Civil War memorial. On a side note, I have found sorting NPS historic areas in the District as particularly difficult -- which ones should be treated as sites on their own merits vs. which ones should be treated as features of another site? One could reasonably claim there are only 5 NPS parks in the D.C. area (Rock Creek, National Mall & Memorial Parks, National Capital - East, President's Park, and GW Memorial Parwkay). On the other hand, it is also reasonable to treat many of the units as parks in their own right, such as Ford's Theatre. Mostly I add an infobox if it has its own NPS website in this format (http://www.nps.gov/xxxx/). — Eoghanacht ^talk 13:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Judith Haspel

Hey D Monack,

A month ago you added that as of 2006, Judith Haspel lives in Hertzliyya; however, according to big newspapers, such as Yedioth Aharonot and Ha'aretz, she passed away in 2004.

Also, these sites call her "Judith Deutsch" and not "Haspel". ⌠Yellow up⌡ 23:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:JerseyCityFlag.jpg

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I've updated the image tag to fair use. --dm ^(talk) 17:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

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Alternative History as a Mode of Science Fiction

I was startled to see you removing the "science fiction" category tag from Roth's The Plot Against America. I realize it was not marketed as science fiction; but that doesn't change the fact that (as properly categorized) it is an alternative history, an old and honorable mode of science fiction. (I realize that there are other labels for alternative-history nowadays, such as "counterfactuals"; but those are just efforts to talk about alternative history without risking the taint of sci-fi cooties on their speculations.) Certainly the jury which granted it the Sidewise Award [indeed, it had no competition on the short-list that year] regard themselves as discussing science fiction! (I know most of them personally; science fiction fans, all.) I certainly don't want to get into a revert war, but I'd like to urge you to reconsider your abrupt and (in my opinion) unjustified change.--Orange Mike 18:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Columbus/Columbia in Washington, DC

It's basically the same thing, right? Maybe the link should go to historical Columbia rather than Columbus though. --Awiseman 20:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

well, check out the Washington, DC talk page, I started a topic on it. --Awiseman 21:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

United States Women's National Team page

Hey, I initially input the roster onto the page, and put "USA" for the club as I didn't have time to go through and look for all their current clubs, etc. Thanks for adding the two and i'm going to try to find out where(if) the rest of them play. Batman2005 15:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Bruford

Is there any way of making the c-quotes smaller and black? They look a little "Sesame Street" at the moment. andreasegde 10:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I´ll cut it down a lot, and paraphrase the quotes. Thanks for letting me know. I got a reply from Bill Bruford himself after I asked him to check the article for innacuracies, and he said it was OK, but complained that it didn´t mention the other (not so famous) stuff he had done... andreasegde 11:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Double/treble

People do use these terms in those senses. How would you rewrite the section? Bill Oaf 21:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, there's no reason to remove all info on the Supporters' Shield. As regards the "double", the usual sense is that of winning the league in points and winning the Cup competition. Many would consider the MLS Cup to be a cup competition rather than a winning of the league. We should at least cover this debate rather than removing the section. Bill Oaf 21:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I've known a lot of people who argue that the MLS Cup is not a true league championship - and even more who'll claim that the "double" can now be considered the winning of the Cup and Shield. I tend to disagree with the former but agree with the latter. One way or the other, I think there is real disagreement on what constitutes the "double" in MLS. Can we agree that the "treble" is the winning of the Shield (which I don't see as irrelevant on the whole - many, many fans agree with me there), the USOC, and the MLSC? I think we should have a section on the double/treble (after all, the MLS Cup is involved in both concepts, no matter what), and that it should be written to reflect the ambiguity of the situation. The double/treble section as it was - that was just provisional, offered up in lieu of representing the full range of opinion on the matter, which I was too lazy to do. Bill Oaf 21:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Good point re: the CCC. I'll include that in writing the new section.

In general, our definition of the double and treble will always be unique and inconsistent with that of European countries; we just have a different format. As for the media, it depends - as the USOC declines in relevance (I don't like this, and it's not out of keeping with other national cup competitions, but it's true), and the Supporters' Shield gains recognition and acknowledgment every year (having gone from non-exisent to unofficial to semi-official to arguably-official in the last several years), there is wider support for the idea of the "double" as the Cup/Shield. At the very least, it's a concept that is out there and quite popular, and the league has no official opinion one way or the other (AFAIK). Instead of including incorrect info (which the original section admittedly was - although I didn't add the treble part myself), I think it's better to have a longer/fuller section which explains the entire situation to the reader. Bill Oaf 22:00, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

There are similar situations to ours - obviously we're not the only playoff format around (most of the football leagues I watch are playoff format - I'm not really a "big three" guy) but the emergence of the Shield as an acknowledged honor is changing common definitions of the "double" here. I'll get together some sourcing on this, do a full rewrite of the double/treble section to reflect various interpretations, explain the full situation to the reader, and so on - and then post the rewritten section on the MLSC talk page for comment before I put it back in the article. Bill Oaf 22:14, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Removal of links to photos

Why do you consider the links to photos at Outdoor sculpture in Washington, D.C. as spam? Shouldn't an article about art give readers an easy way to SEE the individual works? If the links had each been to the same page, I would agree. But each "Photos" link was to a page of photographs of that particular attraction. I read the page about wikispam & don't see how these links qualify as spam. Perhaps there are other guidelines you can direct me to. I'm new here & am operating on intuition. Mrmdog 09:53, 2 September 2006

Thanks for the reply. The difficulty of maintaining such links is a good argument. On a different note, I just noticed that back in August you flagged my photo of the Grant Memorial as a potential copyright violation. I followed the suggested link to the copyright problems page but couldn't find anything. I'm curious as to why you suspect this to be a copyright violation. I took the photo. 10 Sept 2006

Man, you're making this too hard. The photo has no copyright notice on it. Beneath the photo is the statement "I, the author of this work, hereby publish it under the following licenses:" followed by the GNU & CC boxes. Lacking pictures, an article about a work of art is of little interest. Consider the possibility that your zeal is throwing out the content (baby) w/ the spam (bathwater). Mrmdog 15 September 2006

Safelibraries RFC

I notice that a little while ago, you posted an RFC to discuss an content dispute you were having with Safelibraries. I and many other have had similar disputes with him, as I feel he has been actively promoting his beliefs on a variety of articles, in violation of "Wikipedia is not a soapbox". As such, I've gone ahead and asked the Wikipedia community to comment on Safelibraries edits, so people can help guide him to more productive editing habits. If you feel it would be helpful, you might want to comment on the RFC at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/SafeLibraries.org. --Alecmconroy 11:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Bow tie

Hi,

You may have an interest, since I saw your name in the history list of the Bow tie article: There's a separate article, List of bow tie wearers and an admin is suggesting deleting it. When I looked into the Bow tie page, I found there's already a list there. I don't have an opinion on which list should remain, but one really should go. I'd appreciate your advice on the Talk:Bow tie page, if you're interested and have the time.Noroton 00:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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Freddy Adu's number

This is really old news, but so that we don't have to keep reverting each other's edits, please either go to the Real Salt Lake wiki site (as the Real Salt Lake mls site is not yet updated ) to see that Chris Brown has given up his #11 for Freddy Adu and has taken #8. You can verify this by listening to the broadcast of the press conference on 12/12 (!) with Adu on the day of the trade (at the Real Salt Lake website) or go to one of the many press articles (e.g., http://www.sltrib.com/ci_4826619 ). Sammyj 03:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)