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This article says the Cumberland River starts in Letcher county and I had heard many times before that it starts in Harlan County and I am not sure which is right.

The river does start in Harlan County. It has three tributaries - the Clover Fork, the Poor Fork, and the Martin's Fork. The Clover Fork and Martin's Fork converge just north of Harlan (the town) and then converge with the Poor Fork in Baxter. Mari 03:07, 11 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MariAdkins (talk • contribs)

The River doesn't start in Harlan County. The Poor Fork begins near the Virginia state line at Flat Gap in Letcher County. I am with The Head of Three Rivers Project, named so because the Kentucky, The Big Sandy and The Cumberland all begin in Letcher County.Letcherwater (talk) 17:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

This is wrong. The Poor Fork would have to cross over or go under Pine Mountain to get into Harlan County -- and it doesn't. Anybody can look at satellite imagery and trace the Poor Fork to the Virginia border -- in Harlan County at the base of Pine Mountain. Mari 22:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
This uncited statement is a problem. "The native American name for the Cumberland River was the Warrito." According to whom? To which Native Americans, in which language? Then there is the contradictory statement, "Previous to Walker's trip, the Cumberland River had been called Warioto by Native Americans and Shauvanon by French traders." Is it Warrito or Warioto, and again, in which language? TriNotch 02:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I grew up in the area and never heard of this before. Mari 22:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Excellent point. Furthermore, the placement of the statement couldn't be worse, as it destroys the reference relation with the preceding and following sentence. It's obvious someone just slipped the offending statement in there. Here's how it exists now "...flows through southeastern Kentucky before crossing into northern Tennessee, and then curves back up into western Kentucky before draining into the Ohio River at Smithland, Kentucky. The native American name for the Cumberland River was the Warrito. The Cumberland is one of three major Kentucky rivers with headwaters there. The others are the Kentucky River and the Big Sandy River."
And actually, there is no need for the statement in it's current location, for as you say, it's mentioned later in the article. Consequently, I'm removing the horribly placed statement at the beginning. The tribe/language source still needs to be identified and cited. KYJustin 00:04, 14 April 2007 (UTC)