Talk:Culture of England
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[edit] The English character?
Stiff upper lip. Notion of "proper" (doing the right thing etc).
Maximo Park a leading contemporary band? Surely added by some record company wag. They might reach that status but at this stage they look rather out of place next to Coldplay, Robbie and even Kaiser Chiefs. Should I just delete? -Chris
[edit] Tea and Crumpets: The pride and joy of Britan
There's an conversation ongoing presently on Talk:Briton concerning British Eating customs. I'd like anyone interested to participate in the conversation. -ZeroTalk 11:51, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Terrible
As of Friday 8th September 2006, this article is nothing short of terrible. It is full of of POV statements and unverified and nonsensical assertions. The lead section is scatty, lengthy and not-refferenced.
Culture of Scotland is a far superior article - I think this page needs a lot of work to bring it upto scratch! I've made some changes to fulfil even the most basic of Wikipedia's article requirements - much more is needed! Please help! 86.133.72.79 22:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
seems like alot of this is based on stereotype. wikitravels version is better. Pratj 23:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
- I totally agree, this article is utterly ridiculous. The opening sentence says it all: "The Culture of England is the national culture of England." Who wrote this crap? There is no way anyone could accurately sum up the entire culture of England in one article. The diversity of English culture makes it totally impossible to include every single aspect of English 'culture'. A section about music alone could be a mile long.
- Even the bits this article has covered it has done badly. The intro seems to explain more about history than culture. The Art section is good but by no means comprehensive. The cuisine section in just one big stereotype. The folklore section is just a long list of words that most English people will have never heard of. Heritage section is ok but I don't see what it has to do with 'culture', seems more like history to me. As for the religion section - it makes us all seem like pagans. This article has an identity crisis. Is it about English culture? Or is it about everything to do with England ever? DELETE THIS ARTICLE AND START FROM FRESH NOW. Abc30 01:53, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
was the original wrote by an englishman or not. it seems like alot of this is what outsiders appear our culture to be rather than what our cultures really is. anyway, a rewrite of most sections is needed. the folklore section, i have never heard of most of them, they sound like pub names. Pratj 17:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- I would urge users to take a look again at Culture of Scotland, but also Culture of France, Culture of Israel and Culture of India as good (but not excellent) examples of a national culture article. Surely the English can do better.... Brunel, Shakesphere, industrial revolution, King Arthur, Turner, castles, Lowry, Darwin, english language, Isaac-Newton, Dickins, knights, churches, farming, robin hood, beatles, elgar, etc etc. This isn't even scraping anything of a serious academic nature! 86.133.72.79 22:41, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Accuracy disputed
As other have noted above, the article is full of unsourced, innaccurate and absurd statements, implying for instance that Paganism is the major religion in England. I added an accuracy-disputed tag. As suggested, deletion and rewrite is probably the best thing to do.Paul111 10:33, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- I have been ultra-bold (nay, foolhardy) and reverted to the state of the article as it was on 4 September before many of the contested statements were added. It's a sketchy article which needs improvement. I'll put back the tag - but please revert if this has been a step too far. Man vyi 11:23, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
A vast improvement. However, the article needs to concentrate more on English culture as a national culture, on the anomalous four-nation status in the UK, and how English culture relates to British culture. At present it is too much of a list.Paul111 11:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Load of bollocks
Why is this article still so self-consciously lacklustre? It shouldn't be this difficult: what about the English contribution to science and philosophy (Principia hardly went unnoticed, did it?); the development and innovations of English law; English media and film; the class hierarchy; etiquette and queueing; the sense of humour (a Saxon never means anything serious till he talks about justice and right - Kipling, who isn't mentioned); pubs - astonishingly not mentioned, and the drinking culture; the international renown for pomp and ceremony; complaining about the weather; cockney culture; wartime austerity; Edwardian gluttony; the monarchy; self-depracation; stoicism; the innumerable sports and games the English have invented? Shouldn't there be more emphasis on tea-drinking? At least expand the literature section - Shakespeare, people! Maybe a separate paragraph on the promulgation of the English language and the Anglosphere? Even if England in reality is now little more than a global theme park, English culture is as distinct as any other. Get a spine, England! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.254.66.105 (talk) 11:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Some of England's leading contemporary artists include...
If you want to know where this section is headed, go and look at the Culture in Canada article. The music section is just one big list of groups, where every so often someone adds their favourite group. it's now up to about fifty groups. I just that you now start a consensus of how big this list should be, othrwise this one will grow to the same size. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
