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[edit] Citations needed
This article still need citations badly. The small sections I read did not include improbable details, but without citations I can't very well rely on anything here. Unless someone adds citations, the article should be flagged.
[edit] Cleanup, NPOV, Wikify
I removed all POV that I could see, cleaned up and wikified the entire article. It looks pretty good now but could benefit from more information. Any questions can be left on my talk page. Thanks! --Shawn 00:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 10/23/06
First, it is not racist, that is your conception of it. The "statistics" with no reference are found at the Pew Research study of Cuban Americans at http://pewhispanic.org/files/factsheets/23.pdf. I beleive it is you who are mistaken, and biased against white Cubans.
11/02/06 Firstly, it is rude to make his personal by calling me biased. Secondly, if I am biased against white Cubans then I am biased against myself. Thirdly, I reiterate my point about the claim that there was no race mixing prior to Castro as being complete fiction and my advise that you begin more serious research of your heritage with the above book. Fourthly, thank you for providing finally the source of at least one of your statistics, that %86 of Cubans self identify as white. This needs to be cited *in the article. Providing a citation for every claim is *basic writing and one of the main reasons this article needs a complete rewrite. Lastly, this statistic that %86 of Cubans identify as white, placed as you do, is totally out of context and *highly misleading. As it stands it implies that %86 of Cuban Americans are racially Caucassian which is very differnt and not the conculsion of the study that you found the satistic in. If you actually read the whole study you will see that self identification as white is a marker for a sence of inclusion, which you neglect to metion. Consider the following quote from that very study which summarizes this fact:
Shades of Belonging Latinos and Racial Identity
by Sonya Tafoya, Pew Hispanic Center Report Materials
The findings of this study suggest that Hispanics see race as a measure of belonging, and whiteness as a measure of inclusion, or of perceived inclusion. The report reveals that Latinos' choice to identify as white, or not, does not exclusively reflect permanent markers such as skin color or hair texture but that race is also related to characteristics that can change, such as economic status and perceptions of civic enfranchisement. Whiteness is clearly associated with distance from the immigrant experience. Thus, the U.S.-born children of immigrants are more likely to declare themselves white than their foreign-born parents, and the share of whiteness is higher still among the grandchildren of immigrants. In addition, the acquisition of U.S. citizenship is associated with whiteness.
In conclusion, this article suffers from the worst kind of writing, lacks citations, lacks context, lacks depth, is largely POV and needs a complete rewrite.
11/02/06
Once again you are showing your bias by arguing that a normative and subjective interpretation of the fact of self-identification must be included when discussing the objective fact that 86% of respondents to the Pew research poll self-identify themselves as white or caucasian.
4/15/07
Can somebody provide any validity to the statement that the Miami area is one of the wealthiest cities in the country? Didn't a Census report a few years back say Miami is the poorest large city in the country?
[edit] Deletion vote
Please see the deletion vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Bahamian Americans. Badagnani 03:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] History of Latinos and Hispanics
Please consider contributing to the article entitled History of Latinos and Hispanics. Thank you! --JuanMuslim 1m 02:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cubans in Orlando?
Why is orlando mentioned as having a large Cuban community when in fact there is more cities around the country with larger populations, same goes for Key West. Tampa I understand because its historically known for having a Cuban community but Orlando!?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.29.177 (talk) 04:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Deletion discussion
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Cuban Americans. Badagnani 02:14, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Two immigratin sections?
The section on "Immigration Policy should be incorporated into the "Immigration" section. So... umm, Get on that people!--ArtifexCrastinus 17:45, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
