Talk:County of Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown

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[edit] Official name

I have moved this article to "Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown" as this is the official name, in English, of this administrative county as defined in the Local Government (Dublin) Act, 1993 (Section 9) which created this previously unexistant region (no fadas or spaces between slashes). Djegan 23:00, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

This decision, of the Oireachtas, was confirmed by the Local Government Act, 2001 (Part 1). Djegan 19:58, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Another simple and common sense reason as to why "Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown" is not the English name is that if it was then it why would we bother with an Irish one at all, viz "Dún Laoghaire–Ráth an Dúin"? We could simply meet half-way with the wrong one which has both Irish ("Dún Laoghaire") and English ("Rathdown") integrated into a hybrid erroneous name. Djegan 22:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rathdown

What is Rathdown anyway? Morwen - Talk 16:07, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

As far as I understand Rathdown is the west side of the county, historically I can find some references to a poor law union and barony. Two of the best maps of Dublin I have at present this one (c. 800KB) and the Discovery Series Sheet 50 (1:50,000 scale) do not mark it; or at least significantly. The naming of Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown will remain one of the greatest mysteries in modern Ireland, not least for being the longest county name of Ireland. Djegan 19:21, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

List of Irish Local Government Areas 1900 - 1921 has Rathdown No. 1 and No 2. rural districts (in Dublin and some other county), which would have been the former PLU/sanitary district. Strange. Morwen - Talk 22:34, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Rathdown was an old land division, a Barony in the southern part of the original County Dublin (in the period when Dublin went from beyond Balbriggan to near Arklow (which was in Carlow then). It was split into two Half-Baronies when County Wicklow was eventually formed (last of the 32) in the early 1600's, and continued in various roles, as noted above. As to why it was used in the naming of the new county, hard to say, but I did hear it mentioned in those years that it was to avoid giving just the name of one constituent town to the whole area, which included quite a bit of the rural then, and at the same time, there was no way Dun L. Borough was going into the new county without its name being retained. 83.250.96.225 (talk) 12:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

If you look here [1], find the county name of Wicklow, follow north through "Newcastle" on the coast, you will see the two occurences of "Half-Rathdown" - one in Dublin, one in Wicklow. All this came from the same period which left Ballymore Eustace, for example, in an island of Dublin far south of the main county, until the 1830's, a chunk of Kerry inside Cork, part of Offaly in Kildare, etc. 83.250.96.225 (talk) 12:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)