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It would be interesting to know the history of surgery in this area, because historically, e.g. Lord Byron, there were people who suffered throughout their lives from this contdition. Matt Stan 12:57, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I don't understand the last "penis" line. Either more detail about this disclaimer, or dropping it entirely, seems obvious here. - Doug

That's very interesting about Lord Byron. I'm interested in the history of it also. The Nazi Party's Propaganda Minister, Joseph Goebbels had a club foot (ironic?). Also, one of the legends surrounding Chinese "foot binding" is that the last Empress of the Shang dynasty "had a clubbed foot and did not want to be known as having this condition. She asked her husband to make binding feet mandatory for all girls. By doing so, her deformed foot could now be considered beautiful." - Jennifer



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club foot has also been associated with amniotic banding - maybe this should be included?

[edit] Ponseti method page

Is it worth creating a separate page for this technique, or should a link just be provided to the quite detailed information in this article? Any comments would be welcome before I do anything. Dr Aaron 22:54, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it would be beneficial. You can see information here (with the menu bar at the right) [1]. There's also an article about the method here [2]. --aishel 01:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

Would it be possible to obtain a photo of an adult with a club foot? I don't really know what baby feet are supposed to look like. --UNHchabo 03:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goebbels

In this article, it says "Josef Goebbels also had club foot, a fact which was obscured from the German public by censorship campaigns." - however on the page for Goebbels, it says "Although he has been frequently described as having a club foot, this was not the case." Anyone know which is true? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.80.22.212 (talk) 06:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] clubfoot or club foot

This article has no consistency between the two, can someone find the correct (or most popular) method and standardize? Vicarious 04:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paul McCartney

No reference to Paul McCartney's club foot, and there is no indication from the cover of Abbey Road that he has or every had the condition....

[edit] Status of Denis Brown bar

"Maintenance of correction may require the full time use (23 hours a day) of a splint, however, the 'Denis Browne Bar', also known as a foot abduction brace (FAB), has fallen out of favor for treatment of this condition. Part time use of a brace(generally at night, usually 12 hours/day) is frequently prescribed up to 3-4 years of age"

This doesn't make much sense and is not consistent with what I know of the Ponseti method. This is the essence of the Ponseti method:

1. A series of manipulations and casts. The frequency varies according to the child's specific condition and the doctor's judgement, but is usually 6-10 castings, at 1 to 2 week intervals.

2. Once the foot receives a the appropriate degree of over correction, the doctor evaluates the flexibility of the achilles tendon (aka "heel cord") and the position of the child's heel. Depending on this, the doctor may end the casting, or do a percutaneous tenotomy. This is a small cut to the achilles tendon made through the skin (rather than as an open surgical incision), that causes the tendon to be longer and more flexible when it heals. This is done in about 80% of cases. After the tenotomy, there is one more cast, which is removed 2-3 weeks later, when the cord has healed.

3. After this last cast, the child is placed in a foot abduction brace for 23 hours a day, for 2-3 months. This generally is a "Denis Brown" bar, or similar variant, attached to a pair of shoes. Even if it's not literally a DBB, it's something that is functionally equivalent, but possibly with different adjustments. Originally, these shoes were straight-lasted "Markell" shoes. While many children tolerate the FAB/Markell shoe combination well, some children find these uncomfortable and/or are able to slip their feet out of them. To address this some "Ponseti" doctors prescribe "Mitchell" shoes, which are essentially sandals that conform somewhat better to a child's feet. [it's possible that the author of the quoted passage meant to refer to the shoe issue, rather than the FAB itself.]

4. Typically after 2-3 months (per the judgement of the doctor), the child is shifted from wearing the FAB 23 hours a day to wearing the brace only while sleeping. This can be done gradually, or immediately, depending on the doctor's judgement. Dr. Ponseti had originally recommended that the child continue to wear the brace until about 2 years of age, but over time has increased this recommendation to about 4 years of age, based on research suggesting that the longer a child wears the brace, the less chance there is of the foot relapsing.

I know of no source that says that a foot abduction brace has fallen out of favor with doctors using the Ponseti method. My source for the above is the materials on the ponseti links at the bottom of the page, my own experience as the parent of a child with clubfoot (19 months old and still wearing a FAB at night), and as a participant in the Yahoo! groups related to clubfoot.

[edit] Strange...my club foot wasn't corrected with either of the methods mentioned on this page

I was born with a club foot, but it wasn't corrected with either of the methods mentioned on this page. Instead it was (over the course of several months) gently twisting it into the correct direction.--*Kat* 08:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

how can a babies who suffered club foot get brain injury. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.48.13.218 (talk) 07:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

"Anterior Tibial Tendon Transfer (needed in 20% of cases) - *where the tendon is moved from the toe to the third finger*" <-- this makes no sense anatomically, I think its moved to the calcaneus or other part of the foot.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.126.100 (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Illogical passage...

"Anterior Tibial Tendon Transfer (needed in 20% of cases) - *where the tendon is moved from the toe to the third finger*" <-- this makes no sense anatomically, I think its moved to the calcaneus or other part of the foot.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.126.100 (talk) 17:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] External links

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The following kinds of links are inappropriate:

  • Online discussion groups or chat forums
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I realize that some links are helpful to certain users, but they still do not comply with Wikipedia policy, and therefore must not be included in the article. It might be appropriate for the regular editors of this page to carefully review ALL of the external links after reading the relevant policies. WP:NOT:Wikipedia is not a collection of links, after all. WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Forsberg

Someone has listed Peter Forsberg as having been born with clubfoot. While he has foot problems, they are not related to clubfoot. See the following link: http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=222239 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.3.174 (talk) 22:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Club foot article grammar

There are significant grammatical and syntax errors on this page. So many that the article's accuracy and usefulness is questionable. 75.157.225.94 (talk) 00:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)Hacoah