Talk:Cleric (character class)

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[edit] Clerics, Blunt Weapons and Shedding Blood

It is not really a matter of debate as to whether real life Priestly Warriors used blunt weapons over edged ones to comply with a biblical rule. They did not. Aside from there being no evidence outside of Odo of Bayeux that this was ever the case and that ArchBishop Turpin in La Chanson de Roland fights entirely as a Knight, the Cleric Class was itself inspired by the Military Orders, who most certainly did not shy away from edged or bladed weapons. It is not a matter of debate, as much as it is an idea inspired by a late nineteenth century historian. It was thoroughly debunked long ago. David R. Bates, in his article, The Character and Career of Odo, Bishop of Bayeux (1049/50-1097 in Speculum, Vol. 50, No. 1. (Jan., 1975), pp. 1-20 cites on page 6 : Maistre Waces Roman de Rou, ed. R. Andresen, 2 vols. (Heilbronn, 1877), 352-53. The Carmen de Hastingae Proelio, ed. C. Morton and H. Muntz (Oxford, 1972), pp. 20, 28, refers to the hasta as a symbol of command. See Bourrienne, p. 25, to support his arguments, which are well accepted. --M.J.Stanham 20:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger proposal

I suggest this article be merged with Healer (gaming). The articles are similar; there's no need for two of them. SharkD 07:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

• I disagree. The role of cleric is specific, and separate to that of a generic healer. --Muna (talk) 09:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

• i disagree generic healers doesnt summon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.215.125.107 (talk) 15:09, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

• I disagree. In many games, the Cleric is a specialty healer - the best at pure healing, at the expense of less utility than other healers: EverQuest: Cleric, Druid, Shaman; EverQuest II: Cleric (Inquisitor, Templar), Druid (Fury, Warden), Shaman (Mystic, Defiler); World of Warcraft: Priest, Druid, Paladin, Shaman; Vanguard: Saga of Heros: Bloodmage, Cleric, Disciple, Shaman. Confusing "Cleric" with the parent archetype of "Healer" (or Priest) would create confusion. Samanna (talk) 02:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)