Talk:Cities XL
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[edit] Game Development
I regularily check Cities XL . com , so , there is some stuff that should be updated it. I would put it under game discussions. Should I do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.34.90.227 (talk) 23:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Gallery=NPOV?
Somebody want to explain how that works? That thing wasn't being used to make any kind of point or counter-argument, but rather, an excuse to show off screenshots. -Biokinetica (talk) 11:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Not sure where you got the NPOV idea. I support having at least one screenshot in the article, but don't care about a gallery with multiple images. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 13:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Since when was showing screenshots of the game advertising? That is a point of counter argument because that is the relevant policy; advertising is writing an article in a non-neutral point of view, and images can contribute to giving an article a neutral point of view so it has everything to do with it. If it is the case that showing screenshots is advertising and that many people writing games articles are using the opportunity as "an excuse to show off screenshots" then we have a very severe problem with advertising on Wikipedia. Numerous articles have a lot of screenshots including SimCity 4, Spore, and even featured articles such as Half Life 2. What is probably more likley is that illustrating an article is actually perfectly acceptable, and that those that write game articles are actually acting in good faith and not "showing off".
- If the gallery had loads of images with captions saying how wonderful the game was I would agree there may be an advertising issue (along with a copyright one), however that is not the case here. The gallery had three images, two giving a simple illustration of the game and the old Cities Unlimited logo, all with neutral captions. I would be happy with getting rid of old logo as it does add much to the article, but two illustrations are perfectly fine in giving readers a feel for the game to add to the text; as the article gets longer these can be integrated into the article as done for featured games articles and the gallery got rid off. Advertising on Wikipedia is bad but there is such thing as taking the concept to far - and I think this is it. On the same grounds you could also argue the text is also advertising and that the entire article should be deleted. I am restoring the images unless a more detailed explanation on how these images do not follow policy is given; as currently I cannot see one, and neither does Ynhockey by the look of it. Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I have taken the removed images off the fair use orphaned deletion countdown until this is resolved, as can be done if their is a reason to keep them, which there is at present per above. Camaron | Chris (talk) 14:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have re-added one of the screenshots. For now, I think it's enough. The other screenshot does not illustrate anything different, although the artcile could potentially have more screenshots - as long as each illustrates something unique which is important for understand the text (which, for now, is very short), per non-free use criteria. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 14:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have added another image showing the world view part of the game-play in Cities XL, it is completely different from the other image, and it is definitely not advertising. After that I think there is enough images for now. Camaron | Chris (talk) 15:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
