Talk:Chris Morris (satirist)

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[edit] Funny?

What's so bloody funny about saying that Jimmy Savile died? Really, I don't get the joke! Acmthompson (talk) 12:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk pages are for discussing and improving the quality of articles, not for conversations about the subject. The article doesn't specifically assert that the Savile stunt was "funny". --McGeddon (talk) 12:38, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POV

Nice to see some updates to this article; I think it's right to emphasise the hysteria, although I'm a bit worried about the section that begins "It was abundantly clear...". I saw the show on first broadcast and, as a Morris fan, thought it was brilliant, but even I didn't think that Morris was entirely discrete in defining his targets. Perhaps we can change it to something less subjective like "Many viewers were confused as to whether Morris' target was paedophilia, the targets of paedophilia or, as Morris says, media coverage of the subject.

What do you think?

Rayray 07:17, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)

"Other projects since Brass Eye have included Blue Jam, an ambient late-night music and sketch show broadcast on BBC Radio 1, which became the flawed Jam on Channel 4."

I don't think the TV show was flawed, and if it was it should say how in the article.

Edward 18:13, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)


Edward: I think this is part of wider problem which is the tendency to put criticism into articles. If the article said that Jam received mixed critical reception, that would be fine, but I agree with you that to describe it as flawed without explanation isn't helpful.

Rayray 10:43, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Yes, if somebody wanted to talk of critical reception, either in general, or (probably preferably) with specific quotes, that would be fine, but the Wikipedia itself shouldn't have an opinion, with or without reasoning, on whether it was "flawed" or not. It's an easy enough problem to fix, though: just remove the word "flawed". I've done that, I think it's OK now. --Camembert

[edit] Date of Birth

I don't think the date of birth given for Chris is correct, as I was born in 1963 and he was the year above me at school.

oooh! Have you got any gossip? --bodnotbod 01:49, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)
But to answer the question, it's perfectly possible to be 2 birthdays older than someone in the year below cos of the school year running from September to June. Although, I'd guess from Morris's standard of education you'd be equipped to account for that. --bodnotbod 01:58, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)

No particular gossip I'm 'fraid, though he lost one of his front teeth playing rugby - he had a plate. Dunstan 17:09, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Was there no indication of his intimidating sense of humour? Practical jokes? I suppose you don't get wind of that so much being in a different year. He never got barracked in assembly or anything? --[[User:Bodnotbod|bodnotbod ......TALKQuietly)]] 19:36, Jul 29, 2004 (UTC)

I do remember when his year group put on Aristophanes' play "The Frogs" in the lower sixth - he totally stole the show as the boatman. Dunstan 14:04, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] "Christ's Fat Cock"

According to User:62.252.0.4:

Morris has never shouted "Christ's fat cock" at Cliff Richard. He has, interjected mid-coversation (not shouting), by saying "cock naked". This is a popular myth that needs to be stamped out. [1]

Can anyone confirm or deny this? I don't have the show in question to hand, and the Cook'd and Bomb'd site is beastly dead at the moment. [2] [3]

chocolateboy 19:47, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

its not true, none of it, and if it were true, then i would expect to be the first to be knowing about about it. im glad to have got this off my considered considerable chest. Does anybody else know anything about 'Californian Swear Dogs'?


[edit] Uninformative

This page is much too vague and uninformative, with statements like "Morris is widely regarded as someone reluctant to discuss his work", and "He is currently said to be eager to return to radio - news welcomed by a large part of his considerable fanbase", which contain no real information. Someone with a knowledge of the man's career should tighten this article up by replacing the hearsay and speculation with actual content.

For exa material (dating back to 1994) reconfigured in a "darker" style." is opinion, not neutral pov and surely not suitable.

[edit] Copyright?

Have a look at this website: [4] it looks like a lot of information on this article has been lifted from there. Or is it the other way around?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.168.215 (talk • contribs)

Looks like they took their info from Wikipedia. I checked another couple of comedians at random (Ben Elton and Rik Mayall), and their pages at Comedy-Zone exactly match Wikipedia's articles from around November 2005. Looking back through the history of those pages, you can see that info being added piece by piece, by a host of different editors. So, they nabbed it from us.--Nalvage 13:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An Eminem clone

"An Eminem clone" - Fur Q - the person he parodies doesn't look like Eminem, it looks far more like Fred Durst - look at your DVDs and videotapes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.11.130.53 (talk • contribs) 04:00, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

But listen to the music. Yes, he has a Durst-style hat, but the clear model is Eminem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.115.176.20 (talkcontribs) 19:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Agreed with that, the musical style and the voice are a clear immitation of Eminem. Anjow 18:50, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

er...Day Today (Fur-Q) was 1994. Eminem was still making demo tapes - only released Slim Shady EP 3 years later in 1997 according to his wiki page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.120.34 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Right. Definitely not Eminem. If he has a specific model in mind for Fur Q it's probably Ice T (with the graphically violent lyrics/persona and the heavy "borrowing" of other songs and samples). That said, I think it's more likely that Fur Q personifies the genre (and controversy) of gangsta rap without necessarily being based on any one single performer at all. 74.4.54.69 (talk) 22:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmm... Actually you're both wrong because "Fur Q" was in the BrassEye - Paedophilia special of 2001. Long after Eminem's debut, and pretty much at the height of his fame. You misread that part of the article - "Fur Q" was not in The Day Today at all. - Lontano (talk) 04:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Fur Q was in The Day Today, but "Eminem clone" in the article clearly refers to JLb-8 who was indeed in the 2001 Brass Eye special. -CapitalLetterBeginning (talk) 10:06, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, you're right. Two different characters got mixed up. Thanks. - Lontano (talk) 13:54, 9 February 2008 (UTC)