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the--dud 01:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


Just as a note. It's amazing that with all of the attention on Shenzhou, that no one has written an account of how China's space program is organized. It's not as if these these are state secrets as this information is on Chinese web sites and much of it is in English.

The closest thing out there is the FAS website, but most of the information there is very outdated and does not take into account the massive 1998 reorganization.

--Roadrunner

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[edit] Currency

I've changed "$170 million" into "US$170 million" to clarify possible confusions about the currencies as $170 really means nothing without a currency stated. Please note that it's not a good approach to take USD as the "default" currency. Deryck C. 06:41, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

This may be a showing that China can launch missles into space! -anon
Can I have some of what you are smoking anon? It sound pretty good. Yongke 15:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
err, with USD falling like crap even to the chinese yuan, i think we should requote the price in gold standard!!!! >:D Akinkhoo (talk) 14:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Taikonaut or Astronaut?

IMO, Taikonaut should be used throughout the definition instead of Astronaut, and not just in a few places. I think it's a little ethnocentric to use Astronaut in this context. --Ramsobol 17:41, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

fixed. --Revolución hablar ver 01:56, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
The official word used by China is astronaut. Taikonaut is a (Western) media invention. See Taikonaut. I believe that should be used instead. The word does not even agree with the Chinese term for astronaut. The word cosmonaut was used for differentiation, not national pride. When more and more countries become spacefaring, it would be unhelpful to coin more terms for their respective astronauts. I am Chinese, I don't find the word to be ethnocentric. --Voidvector 12:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Got rid of taikonaut. The official PRC sources tend to use Chinese astronaut Roadrunner 09:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
yup, taikonaut is another cool useless invention by the media again. actually i think it was from a couple of scholar who suggested that chinese need their own term since russia and us coin their own; but it never caught on with the official, beside it should be taikongren if they wanted to be correct! mixing chinese with european is just bad. >:) i actually oppose the the term astronaut and asteroid, because astro is star which astronaut doesn't travel the star and asteroid is a just a rock and is misnamed because they look similiar in size to stars on earth. cosmonaut is a more accurate description for "space travellers". but that's just me! :) Akinkhoo (talk) 14:28, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] title

This should be Chinese space program not Space program of China. The only instance where "of" would sound okay is "Space program of the People's Republic of China" but that's a very long and unwieldy title. --Revolución hablar ver 01:33, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Moved, since there seems to be no opposition. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 07:07, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name translation

Please note that 'signs for the four tones' are not applied when translating Chinese people's names. 请注意,中文人名,地名翻译时不标四声。

lol, maybe that is why no european can pronouns chinese name ;) but standards are standards, best keep eveything in line. :) Akinkhoo (talk) 14:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Logo

Not at all related to this article, but I am still wondering... Why does the logo look so much like the Star Fleet insignia? If it was designed in light of the Star Fleet insignia that might warrant mention in the article. Maybe...it does sound a little like trivia. Ugh... Matthardingu 21:21, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Breakdowns of Project 921 are in error. As stated: - Project 921-1 — Shenzhou spacecraft - Project 921-2 — Chinese Space Lab and Chinese Permanent Space Station short term and then permanent occupation - Project 921-3 Space Shuttle — Second generation manned spacecraft (This project appears to have been cancelled)

The actual breakdowns are: - 921-1 - astronaut - 921-2 - spacecraft applications - 921-3 - manned spacecraft - 921-4 - launch vehicle - 921-5 - launch site - 921-6 - tracking, telemetry, and telecommunications - 921-7 - recovery site

What this article probably is referring to are the three PHASES of Project 921, and even here, there is error. Phase 1 was to launch unmanned craft, culminating in a manned launch to finalize design. This has been completed. Phase 2 is to launch a temporary 8 ton space station. This is currently in development. This phase should be completed by approximately 2010. Phase 3 calls for a permanent space station of approximately 20 tons. This will be complete in the 2020-2025 time range.

Project 921 was born from the studies and proposals of Project 863-204 and Project 863-205. In 1987, the Project 863-204 committee took proposals for a space launch and transportation system. By 1988, the number of proposals had been reduced to six. Two of those were then accepted for further evaluation. One was for a ballistic capsule based on the Soviet Soyuz, the second was the ChangCheng 1 space shuttle. About 1990, the ballistic approach was chosen over the shuttle approach. That was the end of the Chinese space shuttle, Mark Wade not withstanding. --65.78.77.86 (talk) 15:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)