Talk:Chief Mate

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Contents 1 De-stubbed 2 Terminology question 3 Stability issues 4 Watchstanding

[edit] De-stubbed

I rewrote this article, promoted it to start-class, and lowered the importance from high to mid. Haus42 17:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Great job in the re-write! One comment though... instead of describing each stability concept why not just link to (or create) a separate stability page and leave this one just about what a C/M does not how he does it? The VTS section is also too long. Just a suggestion. Gcaptain 01:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Terminology question

Question on terminology: Back at mid-century I served an Air Force enlistment with several men who had been merchant seamen, and they said that the chief engineer is the First Officer, and the first mate is the Second Officer and subordinate to the First Officer if the Captain is unable to serve. Were they wrong, or has law and terminology changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.122.6.124 (talk • contribs) Jun 10, 2007

[edit] Stability issues

Moved stability section to Stability conditions (watercraft) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.182.175.218 (talk • contribs) Jun 10, 2007

Ok my move was labeled vandalism and removed by Rich257. I guess I'll have to create an account and upload a picture of my chief Mate license to show that I'm not vandalizing the site. The reason I moved it is because their is way too much information and when my people I meet look up my job they are totally confused. They do not need to know the definition of traverse stability they only need to know what a chief mate is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.182.175.218 (talk • contribs) Jun 10, 2007

I agree with you and will attempt to delete the redundant stability info, hopefully it will work. I think there is alot more that can be moved but I'll start with just the stability info --Gcaptain 03:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Watchstanding

I think the statement that "A chief mate is almost always a watchstander" may be an exaggeration. I'm a chief mate on a self-propelled semisbmersible and I don't stand watch, there's just too much cargo and maintenance to do. Neither do other chief mates in the rest of our fleet of drillships. There's a two man watch with a 3/m and 2/m on the Bridge. I know many tankers have an extra 3/m so the C/m doesn't stand watch. Just an observation, I'm new to wiki. This is a well written article, I won't change anything without cites to back it up. Orniphobe 12:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

When I wrote the sentence, I knew it was going to be problemmatic. I think the only way to un-foul the sentence is to distinguish long-haul freighters from, for example research ships, workboats, and coasters. But having stared at it for several minutes I don't see a way to make it more accurate without making it a mess. If something like "A chief mate is typically a watchstander" feels better, please feel free to use it. Haus^Talk 17:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)