Talk:Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:CharlieBrookersScreenwipe.jpg

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[edit] NPOV/OR tags

This article has problems with nreferenced POV statements based on original research about the program - this not appropriate for an encyclopedia. For instance, the way "Unsarcastic/Complimentary" section suggests that sincere praise for TV shows is very rare on Screenwipe - there is an (I think stronger) OR case to be made that Charlie Brooker's sincere praise is much more common. Another example of a problematic line: "Screenwipe can be characterised as being intellectually harsher, however, with Brooker often making over-the-top — and slightly unbalanced — moral comparisons between the seeming attitude of certain programmes, and the logical conclusions of that attitude if it were turned towards real life." 207.151.252.32 (talk) 22:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

• Sincere praise for a show is noticably rarer on the show compared to negative comments. But the number of shows he does support listed in the article doesn't really suggest praise on the show is very rare. Also, I have to say I think the "intellectually harsher" line is generally correct about the style of the show, though I agree some refence for this is needed. So the OR tag is perhaps warranted, but I don't think the NPOV one is. Alberon (talk) 16:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

• Even mild praise is considerably rare on the show throughout the seasons. For example, Charlie Brooker may list five to ten flaws with a program and then list only one or two aspects of a program that he finds worthwhile. I enjoy Screenwipe immensely and find that this is the case -- in fact I find that's part of it's draw for me. Even the most casual review of the show will prove a high ratio of negative to positive comments. I'm reviewing some episodes now and once I've documented negative vs. positive comments I'll remove the NPOV tag if there are no reasonable objections. Glamrockboy (talk) 23:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Okay, I'm going to just stop right here. In the first three minutes of Episode 4 of series 3, there are twenty-three statements that are either mocking or negative -- with no positive statements. There are a large number of neutral statements as well, but the negative statements are overwhelming in number. Therefore I am removing the POV tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Glamrockboy (talk • contribs) 23:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)