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[edit] Use of "Red Hat"

Isn't this page breaking the law by using red hats' trademark without permission? They just sued centos.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.74.233 (talk • contribs)

No. You just said "Red Hat" without permission. Do you think you broke any law by doing so. Of couse you didn't. And neither did I by including the information that CentOS is based on Red Hat.
Laws concerning trademarks (the right of both sellers and buyers to distinguish one product from another), copyright (the right to make a copy), patents (the right to publish then use useful new inventions and processes), and trade secrets (protected by contract law, I think) are all very different and complicated and refered to genericly as intellectual property.
NONE of these laws prevent ANYONE from stating KNOWN basic truths about a product. (That said, anyone can sue anyone over anything. Winning is another matter.) - by FREEDOM_LOVER—Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.250.132.122 (talk • contribs)
NONE of these laws prevent ANYONE from stating KNOWN basic truths about a product.
You obviously either don't live in the USA or haven't heard of parts of the DMCA law yet. This alaw already says that stating many simple truths about a product can land you in jail. Of course this has nothing todo with this particular discussion but just thought I should warn you about it. Canderra 11:39, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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Why are there lots of links to dates? Since they don't add to the article they seem like links for links sake. Eg: "(as of October 20, 2005)." doesn't explain why or what changed on that date...

If I want to know about 2005 I'll lookup 2005 not CentOS and follow a link to 2005.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.63.49.225 (talk • contribs)

You're supposed to link "as of" dates, so that, for instance, people can check what links here to "As of 2005", and find stuff that's no longer true and update it, or find stuff that's still true and change it to "As of 2006".—Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.194.111.170 (talk • contribs)
Actually, you really need to only link dates when they are notable dates for the article's subject. Check out WP:MoS. //Ae:æ 23:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Logo

It's necessary to add the CentOS logo. Probably this is CentOS Icon. There is no license info on their home page, it is necessary to ask them to upload the image.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Koyaanisqatsi@narod.ru (talk • contribs)

I agree. After reading http://centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=49, I have sent an email to the CentOS team requesting permission. If it is granted, I'll upload a logo from http://mirror.centos.org/centos/graphics .--Ktdreyer 21:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I have received word from Karanbir Singh, one of the CentOS developers. After a brief email exchange, I communicated the standard type of license tag typically assigned to various Linux distributions' logos. He has told me that the inclusion of the logo in Wikipedia is not a decision for him to make alone, and that he will discuss the matter with those higher up in the CentOS organization.--Ktdreyer 23:37, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Any news on this? — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 11:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Haven't heard anything new. Since it was almost a year ago, I'll send another email. --Ktdreyer 04:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Typo?

The version sections say that 2 was released after 3. Is this a typo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.140.209.184 (talk • contribs)

For people whom later see this... Yes, it was a typo and is now corrected. //Ae:æ 23:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CentOS vs Fedora

Besides not being Red Hat sponsored, the article does not make clear what's different between CentOS and Fedora Core. What are the important differences? Twinxor t 06:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

The same diff between Core and RHEL. CentOS (free) = RHEL ($). This article explains Core vs. RHEL. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib Reverts 10:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes. CentOS is just RHEL - redhat. //Ae:æ 22:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] There is a page in portuguese about CentOS

I don't know how to link it, I hope you apreciate the information and do it.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.198.136.237 (talk • contribs)

Done. --Mperry 22:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cPanel spam?

CentOS and other linux server distros are used by lots of major ISPs with a lot of different proprietary and open source control panels. Why mention the proprietary, commercial cPanel in particular? Is Wikipedia endorsing this particular combination or something? :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.85.4.12 (talk • contribs)

I believe a good chunk was just ripped out yesterday... — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 22:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
The mere mention of cPanel seems unneccessary as it's not part of CentOS. I'd imagine the installed userbase is trivial when compared with more readily- (and freely-) available tools like Webmin. I suggest completely removing the cPanel references. Anyone disagree? Gskuse 07:51, 1 February 2007 (UTC) Talk
I replaced "Many big name" with "Some". I still feel cPanel should be completely removed. Gskuse 08:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC) Talk
I think it's fine now; it's only one sentence. A whole section was uncalled for. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 11:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
"You'd imagine" wrong. CPanel is dominant among hosting providers that offer a non-homegrown panel. --38.100.212.21 (talk) 07:38, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Server and Desktop Usage

"CentOS can be used for a X Window based desktop, but is targeted primarily as the server market, like RHEL."

This seems incorrect. Red Hat markets RHEL for desktops and servers. Gskuse 08:10, 1 February 2007 (UTC) Talk

I didn't know that. I've always seen it as server class stuff. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 11:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

There's RHEL Server and Desktop, RHEL isn't just a server OS.--80.6.85.54 15:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CentOS vs RedHat again

Does anyone know if RedHat is suffering losses as a result of the CentOS project? Reliable source? Pgr94 18:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

no, the majority of redhats revenue is from the technical support they offer, not the OS media itself —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.152.50 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Advertisement of Support

The article mentions Sparc and Alpha support, but I've not seen it appear -- and the mention is very old. To avoid the concern that it may be vapourware or misleading, at least until something tangible materializes, can we modify or remove the section? I'd like to change it to use the words 'planned' or 'development', and I propose changing it so if it's more accurate, especially because it doesn't preclude good news down the road. Bishop 16:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

It's a little bit confusing: on their about page [1] they stated for support for ppc, alpha, and sparc - with ppc and sparc beging beta. When looking down to the mirrors [2], there is only a version for alpha (and not for ppc and sparc)? Can anybody explain this? --Sophis 21:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Intentionally Misleading statement, or not?

"As required, Red Hat releases all source code for the product publicly under the terms of the GNU General Public License and other licenses."

There is a considerable bit of code that Redhat creates that is 100% novel. They protect their trademark, which they should, but CentOS folk do what they do with RedHat's quiet blessing (short of any trademark issues), as RH releases all such code GPL. Read that carefully. They do it, but they don't have to. Meaning, the "As required" at the beginning there is very wrong.

I have to believe this discussion has been brought up before, yet no talk on it exists? Was it just deleted, and the line left as is? Was such done simply to be contrary? Brianlamere 17:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Not misleading, If you licence your product under the GPL as Red Hat is, you are REQUIRED to make the source code available. The misconception is that it has to be freely available. You are only required to provide it to anyone who asks, and you can charge a small fee to cover your costs in making it available and no more, eg cost of DVD and postage. It is just that it usually works out cheaper to have it available on an FTP server 92.232.83.32 (talk) 11:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New look for Releases Section

Just changed the list to a table in the releases section. IMHO this looks better. Also added the architecture and release date of the RHEL release.

I did not find all the information - maybe someone know about these things and can fill in the empty spaces. --Sophis 08:07, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Release History table

Can someone add in support information on the 'Release History' table and colour code it like so:

Colour Meaning
Red Old release; not supported
Yellow Old release; still supported
Green Current release
Blue Future release

Altonbr (talk) 03:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Releases Image

http://dag.wieers.com/blog/ubuntus-need-to-catch-a-wave (http://dag.wieers.com/blog/files/centos-intro-1.3-en.png) Altonbr (talk) 12:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)