Talk:Causes of mental disorders
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Good evening dear wikipedia, I would like to mention that you state that prozac has a good effect on depression however Prozac is a very strong POISON. You can read all about it on www.prozactruth.com Martin.
Halfway through, this article seems to shift from causes to treatment: the part on non-physical causes doesn't discuss causes, but talk therapy and the placebo effect. Ed, do you have something in mind here, or should I dive in and redo this (tomorrow, most likely)? Vicki Rosenzweig (7 May 2002)
You're right, and I'm sorry to say I no longer know where I was going with this. Please dive in! Ed Poor, Thursday, May 23, 2002
I'll do my best, but this isn't really my expertise. Is there a doctor in the house? Vicki Rosenzweig, Sunday, June 16, 2002
I took the liberty of deleting 'lobotomy' as a physical cause of psychiatric disorder. While lobotomy no doubt created many problems for those subjected to it, these are more properly regarded as neurologic effects of the proceedure and not psychiatric disorders. I don't think lobotomy is listed in the DSM, but if I am wrong I would retract this deletion. Beans 11/21/02
- I think that "psychiatric" disorders preclude those with an organic cause including injury and drug induced states (though drug addiction is usually considered psychiatric). But at this time I have no source on that. Matt 04:37, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Hello everyone,
I added a short mention with links for 2 of the best twin studies about schizophrenia. Please don`t delete because they are very good academic research, with very big sample sizes (more than 16,000 and more than 15,000 pairs, respectively), and they have very good methodology also.
Alberto
[edit] Criticism
The article wanders but this is understandable. The DSM cannot decide what is psychosis and what is not.
For instance Qi Gong Psychosis is considered a Culture Bound Syndrome but the Awakening of Kundalini is not. In both cases performing the exercise too many times in a compact time frame produces a time limited psychotic episode. (First psychotic episode.)
Some long-term users begin to believe they can levitate, walk through solid objects, dematerialize or become invisible at will, and that they can read your mind, control your thoughts and actions through mental telepathy.
Participants believe that if they perform certain physical exercises in unison they gain the power to transcend normal reality. Case histories from China say that some Qi Gong participants seem to become addicted to the exercise and cannot or will not stop gathering others to exercise with them even under threat of arrest.
These altered mental states are not considered mental illness because the victims are accepted as enlightened within their groups of common belief set. The bizarre thinking and psychosis do not seem to impact their lives negatively.
When examined with a view of the envelope but not the substance of bizarre beliefs these two exercises form a model for Schizophrenia. (The delusions of Schizophrenia are culture specific.)
http://visionandpsychosis.net/Psychotic_Mental_Illness_Cause.htm
Studies that only reach a statistical correlation are worthless. They do not meet any minimum standard for scientific investigation and cannot be “good academic studies” no matter what their size or length of time involved. They fail to account for all the variables involved because they do not know what those variables are. In the 1930’s Schizophrenia was more common in inner cities rather than rural areas. The theory then was that deprivation caused it. When patients improved in hospitals but relapsed when sent home, poor home life became the cause of Schizophrenia.
There has never been a provable causal link to brain chemistry or inherited mental illness. The fact that only forty percent of cases appear to have a genetic link tells us that mental illness is not inherited. Schizophrenia onsets in late adolescence hampering marriage possibilities and that would prevent genetic transmission.
Research at the University of Georgia in 2002 determined that there is a common hyperactivity of the M-Channel for vision in Schizophrenics and their close blood relatives who are disease free. This posits that Schizophrenia is an altered mental state created by the same phenomenon that causes the psychotic episodes of Qi Gong and Kundalini Yoga.
The explanation is much too long for this discussion page.
http://visionandpsychosis.net/Kundalini_Yoga_Psychotic_Episode.htm http://visionandpsychosis.net/QiGong_Psychotic_Reaction_Diversion.htm
These same mental events have happened on scientific expeditions and on space missions.
http://visionandpsychosis.net/Astronauts_Insanity.htm
L K Tucker 68.158.201.98 21:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The missing link: Bacterial infections.
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Source: Canadian Lymes Association
This material may apply to a variety of illnesses. Like my research has suggested the testing for this one possible cause is difficult, and if overlooked then the patient has very little chance of cure.
--Caesar J. B. Squitti : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 03:43, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Once a test is negative, the false assumption of a negative test, that the person does not have this or that infection results in a continuation of symptoms and increase in problems...
--Caesar J. B. Squitti : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 19:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] A missing element: Pharmaceutical drugs.
Why is PPA missing from the list of possible factors contributing to this.
PPA a common drug found in over the counter medications until 2000 in the USA. (What about other drugs....)
Some research suggested that ...
"many psychotic episodes ocurred after suffering 'flue like' symptoms"
If you read between the lines, it was in some cases, that the individual took a cold medication with PPA to deal with the flu and experience a mental illness...
PPA look it up.
Seems this would certainly reduce the stigma attached to mental illness, so why is it ignored ?
--Caesar J. B. Squitti : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 09:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] PPA Side effects
A scientific study[1] found an increased risk of hemorrhagic stroke in women who used phenylpropanolamine, although it is not clear which isomer is to blame. A study at the Yale University School of Medicine in 1999 had produced similar results.[1] Reports of cases of hemorrhagic strokes in PPA users had been circulating since the 1970s.
A report from the Dept. of Psychiatry, F. Edward Hebert School of Medicine, Bethesda, Maryland in Pharmacopsychiatry[2] states:
- We have reviewed 37 cases (published in North America and Europe since 1960) that received diagnoses of acute mania, paranoid schizophrenia, and organic psychosis and that were attributed to PPA product ingestion. Of the 27 North American case reports, more reactions followed the ingestion of combination products than preparations containing PPA alone; more occurred after ingestion of over-the-counter products than those obtained by prescription or on-the-street; and more of the cases followed ingestion of recommended doses than overdoses.
- Failure to recognize PPA as an etiological agent in the onset of symptoms usually led to a diagnosis of schizophrenia or mania, lengthy hospitalization, and treatment with substantial doses of neuroleptics or lithium.--Caesar J. B. Squitti : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 09:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
And how common is PPA use? Perhaps you should avoid lecturing and simply list the information you'd like to discuss. JFW | T@lk 11:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Matrix Factor - Multiple Cause.
Excuse the suggestion, but once again, half-truths abound.
My analysis of PPA, a drug that can cause psychotic episodes occurs in 'pregnent women' or 'suseptible' individuals.
Genetics is also another component, the 'wild card' that would suggest a 'weakness', as in a computer 'anti-virus' program.
The suggestion is that a matrix allows some of these disorders to develop. That is a pregnent women, with a genetic weakness, will be 'weak' to a bacterial infection, that allows another 'stress' incident to trigger the breakdown.
Rather than a simple cause, it is a 'matrix' effect.
--Caesar J. B. Squitti : Son of Maryann Rosso and Arthur Natale Squitti 03:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- Caesar, please stop making these vague statements. PPA intoxication seems rare (37 cases since 1960), and your odd reference to "half-truths" etc etc makes you sound like a crank. JFW | T@lk 11:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
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