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[edit] movie pic

I removed the "Catwomen" movie picture from this page for the simple reason that Catwomen is not actually wearing a catsuit in that picture. A Catwomen picture from one of the earlier Batman movies would work, but I'd still advise against it, as it's possible that some readers might get confused over the more general meaning that way (ie, they'd confuse the cat characteristics of the character with the actual meaning of the term). - RedWordSmith 21:40, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] every millimeter

I removed the reference to latex catsuits covering 'every millimeter of the wearer's skin' as being a gross exaggeration. Besides, you typically don't want to cover the face, and definately not the nose- you don't want to suffocate in the thing, now do you?

[edit] images

Neither the Catwomen nor the Seven of Nine images can legally be used here under fair use. These images can only be used to illustrate an article on the image's subject, namely the movie or the Star Trek character. Other use could get Wikipedia in trouble, potentially making it difficult to use fair use images anywhere. —johndburger 21:11, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Replaced rubber comments with some speculated history. :)

The latex catsuit comment didn't say anything that wasn't also true about catsuits made out of anything else, but it seems worth noting that the earliest catsuits were probably made of latex.

[edit] Serena Williams

That Serena Williams comment seems out of place, and should not be in the introduction to this article (where only the most important information is put). Checking the pictures, she's not even wearing a catsuit anyway! Yes it's leather, but it has no sleeves OR legs to it! How can that be defined as a catsuit? 80.47.182.131 22:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] added music videos

Hi guys. I added a few catsuit videos. If you find some of them hard to verify, then look for the Gerlinky forum, which contains an active library of nearly all popular fetish. I haven't linked them up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bipedia (talk • contribs) 08:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed most of these additions. Like the rest of the listcruft in this article, they add nothing to the reader's understanding of the topic—they are non-notable (and largely unverifiable). They make about as much sense as an Appearances in popular culture section in the Mug article:
Unless we want to move this article to List of catsuits in popular culture, these need to be thinned down considerably. —johndburger 03:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Such information makes more sense than analogous information in Mug article would make, because catsuits are MUCH less common than mugs. However, it should be moved to Catsuits in popular culture, with some information left here in non-list format (like fifth paragraph in "Modern history" section in currently Corset article made from "Corsets in popular culture" section). And on top of the section should be {{main}} template linking to the list article after it will be created. --Qsaw (talk) 14:50, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm all for it, especially since the list article will then likely be deleted, because it's simply not notable. —johndburger 01:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
If you delete the lists, there is nothing much in the article at all. I agree with your comments on notability: nothing is ever noteworthy enough to put on Wikipedia; but as to "verifiablity", that is a particularly strange comment. You are either calling me a liar, or you are too lazy to check. I would have thought it was easier to verify catsuits in music videos, than consipracy theories. I think lists are valid on wikipedia, because the regular internet often does not contain some types of lists - people being too lazy to make them. Qsaw is right. Your mug analogy was irrelevent. Stick with notability, as you are on firm ground there, since it is your opinion entirely.Bipedia (talk) 13:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Rather than personal attacks, please address the comments. (With respect to laziness, see the comment that begins this section.) Please explain how the list adds to the reader's understanding of the concept—references to wp:Lists in Wikipedia and/or wp:Listcruft might be useful for making your case. In particular, the latter notes: In general, a "list of X" should only be created if X itself is a legitimate encyclopedic topic that already has its own article. If you can't argue for the notability of a separate article on Catsuits in music videos, then a list of same is similarly non-notable. I'm afraid I don't understand your argument that lists are valid on wikipedia, because the regular internet often does not contain some types of lists. This reasoning would suggest that anything not on the regular Internet belongs on Wikipedia.
With respect to verifiability, since you did not even provide a link to "the Gerlinky forum", I can't judge the quality of any hypothetical references to it, but perhaps you can explain where it fits in on the spectrum of sources that wp:verifiability discusses. Is it a peer-reviewed academic publication? Hopefully it is not a self-published source, as that guideline points out that these are next to useless. —johndburger 03:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] article needs to be scraped

I feel like this article needs to be rewritten from the top down. I have personally seen catsuits worn often as undergarments for many purposes and many more times than i have seen it in a fetish style. This purpose is not even mentioned in the article. Most catsuits are made of lycra not latex. Many Many magicians, circus performers, actors and musicians use catsuits as part of their costumes and I am sure that they compromise more of society than fetishists. Karisuestokes (talk) 01:34, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Then, please, mention and describe those other purposes in the article, because this article (when not taking "Appearance in popular culture" section into account) is very short and it seriously needs some expanding, but valuable information about this garment is very hard to find, so any addition would be welcome. :) --Qsaw (talk) 12:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)