Talk:Catherine of Valois

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Allene Stone Gano Hughes, mother of Airman Howard R. Hughes, Jr., is a descendant of Catherine of Valois, Dowager Queen of England, by second husband Owen Tudor. ^{[1] [2]} Aldebaran69's information removed. No references cited otherwise. Please provide sources in future. Thank you for honoring rules.

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John 76.182.220.150 (talk) 04:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I have concerns about the sources in this article - see the following footnote "Mary Tudor b. 1432: With sourced Ancestry of Owen Tudor, as daughter of Owen Tudor and Catherine De Valois; and Mary Tudor's daughter Jane Gray lived 1475-1509, earlier Jane than Jane Grey who was daughter of the later Mary Tudor, sister of Henry VIII) at http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?tid=3071280&pid=-1716367594"

Firstly, Jane Grey (the 9 days queen) was the GRANDDAUGHTER of Mary Tudor, not the daughter. This glaring factual error makes me wonder if the other claim is true, particularly as I have not seen it before - namely that Owen Tudor and Catherine of Valois had a daughter called Mary.

The source the writer gives for this claim is a subscription service ancestry.com which requires credit card details even for a free trial.

I object to this - the contemporary source for the claim that a daughter Mary existed should either be given in the article or else on a website that the public can access. Otherwise, since I have never seen this claim before, I can give no credence to it.

Please contact the author and ask them to supply proper verification for their claim, and also to correct the error about Jane Grey. Clearly she cannot be Mary Tudor's daughter - Mary Tudor married Charles Brandon and her two daughters Frances and Eleanor had the surname Brandon. Frances married Henry Grey, therefore her daughter Jane (and Catherine and Mary) had the surname Grey.

12:06, 23 May 2008 (UTC) Welys