Talk:Carpians

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can anyone provide a refference to where is "chrb" attested as a slavic word ?

It was added in the carpathian mountains article, and I assumed it was correct. After a google search, I found that there is an:
old-czech word "chrb, chrib", which means small hill

Bogdan | Talk 12:08, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

isn't 'gora' the slavic word for 'mountain' ?

yes, it is. but it may be a synonyme.
what about Karpathos, the name of an mountain-island in ancient Crete, in the Thracian sea ? Criztu 18:35, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Word or Name Carpadus in relation to yugoslavia

My last name is Carpadus, which supposedly has origins in Latvia either as Carpadus or as Carp/Karp. Recieved a goole alert several weeks ago about an indonisian wikipedia page http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disintegrasi_Yugoslavia in which this paragraph, which we had translated in to english, was found

"The History of Yugoslavia can be traced back to the 6th Century, and it's assumed that the ancestor of the Yugoslavian was the Carpadus ethnic group. Several nations came one after another to dominate certain regions in Yugoslavia; among others were Roman, French, Austro-Hungarian, Turk, Italian, and German. The earlier settlers of Yugoslavian region were several small independent ethnic groups that enabled other nations to colonialize several regions for a relatively longer span of time."

Is this a possible mistranslation of Carpiens (Dacian tribe) or the Carpathien Mts. Is it likely that there is some conection from the carpiens to the baltic states?

There have been some speculations on the Baltic origin of the Dacians/Thracians, but none conclusive. However, Balts and Dacians were both part of the Satem group of Indo-European language and possibly rather close one to another, which would explain the common words. Bogdan | Talk 09:09, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] To be verified

The root/roots of Armenian kar (stone) and Czech chrb (hill) need to be verified. They might not be cognates to Albanian karpë. Alexander 007 08:18, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I didn't find chrb (hill) in Slovak, but I found chrbtica, meaning 'backbone, spine'. Probably from a different root than Alb. karpë. Chrb might even be from *kwerp-, though I don't know. Alexander 007 06:14, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I found in the dictionary "hrobčekový", hillock. I have no idea from where I got that chrb. bogdan 23:10, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citation

I'm sure there is a citation for the idea that Carpians may be the ancestors of Albanians. I have no opinion on the matter other than it is possible. Alexander 007 01:50, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

No I don't agree with you in that matter. "Carp" is an Albanian word for stone, and the first one to call the Carpians was Ptolemeu. In addition, Illiyrians were the ancestors of Albanians. This could also give us a hint regarding the language Ptolemeu spoke, maybe it was Illyrian, because Illiria at that time included also 70% of the nowadays greek territory. Map of Illyrian tribes

[edit] List of Carpian rulers

I have erased this entry completely because it sounds as a joke, it has no citations and I couldn't find anything to support it. It reads like this (note that, previously, "Badajoz" replaced "Athens"):

List of Carpian rulers

Chief Grant

Chief Grant, came up the name Carpi to separate their tribe with others.It was Grant who confirmed the allied deal with the Goths.Stories were told that he would be resurrected in about 18 centuries from his death aganist the Roman Empire in the late 3rd to early 4th century war by Badajoz. Ferred 09:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)