Talk:Captain (nautical)

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Contents 1 Merge suggested 2 Unsourced claim 3 List of sea captains 4 Captain (naval) 5 Is the globalise tag justified? 6 Can someone qualified re-write this? It's total rubbish 7 another unsourced claim 8 Career Path?

[edit] Merge suggested

I feel pretty confident that merging this page with Master Mariner makes sense. Any thoughts? Haus42 01:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I think a merge is required. Personally I hate parenthesised titles. I've found my way here from creating a redirect at shipmaster. That would be my choice of title. But in the meantime go for it. Merge Sea Captain into here. That should be easy. Then try master mariner. But go for it. Frelke 07:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

OK. I've done Sea Captain. If you want any help with Master Mariner just shout. Frelke 07:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I completed the merge as per without getting rid of much material at all. It's still a little too section-ey for my tastes, but I think the redundancy is much lower. Cheers. Haus42 22:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced claim

I'm going to conditionally remove this: "A captain does, however, have the legal right to administer morphine to a patient, a legal right shared only with doctors and pharmacists." I think this may have been true pre-Inmarsat. For example, corpsmen can administer morphine. Haus42 16:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Well I personally administered pain killers by intramuscular injection many years ago as 2nd Mate. It was prescribed by a shore-based doctor prior to leaving port. So I think "administer" is probably is probably the wrong verb. It may well be that "prescribe" is more correct. I could understand the master having the right to decide that a patient could "use" morphine. But I don't believe that administration of the drug is the issue. Leave it out. If objections are raised it can come back. Frelke 22:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of sea captains

I merged the 2 lists at the bottom to List of sea captains which I just stumbled over. If anyone has any strong objections, please feel free to revert. Cheers. Haus^Talk 20:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Captain (naval)

A little over 3 months ago, Captain (naval) was split off from Captain. The fact that that article exists gives us some room to tailor this article more towards merchant captains, rather than having to try to straddle the naval and merchant worlds. While there is some overlap (especially in the Cinque Ports and wartime eras), treating the overlap as the exception rather than the rule will allow us to focus on the history and business of being a ship's master. Any feelings before I start changing things around? Cheers. Haus^Talk 15:03, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is the globalise tag justified?

I'm not convinced that this article is unduly UK centric. The fact is that the UK was the dominant naval and merchant marine power in the era in which modern conventions were established, so it is naturally at the centre of the historical sections of the article. Wimstead (talk) 19:43, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I admit my own bias, but I feel that the article is very UK specific as it is right now, especially in areas dealing with current terms and industry norms. UK-specific references abound. The article currently has a strong prose style, also. I'll try to start thinking of ways to approach from a global perspective. --Pesco (talk) 06:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Can someone qualified re-write this? It's total rubbish

Look, as one quick example where it talks about the range of powers of a captain- including what should be on the the flaming dinner menu...

"Sorry Commodore I ran the ship aground. I was deciding what would go well with beans." Come on... I mean, what does a pursor do for example? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.225.2 (talk) 01:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] another unsourced claim

i'm going to remove the line that says a captain can conduct a marriage on a ship registered to the (landlocked) Czech Republic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1Rabid Monkey (talk • contribs) 14:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Career Path?

Can someone knowledgable add more info on the typical career paths and qualifications that a person will have to take to achieve the rank of Captain? What is the average age of a new captain? Do they climb through the ranks or are trained as a ship captain from the beginning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.217.76.77 (talk) 00:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

It varies. For an unlimited-tonnage cargo ship captain, one route would be maritime academy, third mate, second mate, chief mate, then captain. If you graduate at 22, you could pass the chief mate/master test at 24 or 25. Haus^Talk 01:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)