Talk:Capital District

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[edit] CapitAl?

Might want to check the spelling on that one. Political seats are CapitOls.

From the Wiki on "Capital": "In politics, a capital (also called capital city or political capital — although the latter phrase has an alternative meaning based on an alternative meaning of "capital") is the principal city or town associated with its government. It is almost always the city which physically encompasses the offices and meeting places of the seat of government and fixed by law. The word capital is derived from the Latin caput meaning "head," and the related term capitol refers to the building where government-business is chiefly conducted." People around here refer to the area as "Capital District," and the building where the Governor works as The Capitol. --Gnhn 17:26, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Population and Definitions

I added the population of the Albany-Schenectady-Troy MSA, and noted that it is also defined to include Montgomery and Schoharie Counties. Tweaked some of the language to make it clear that "Capital District" is a semi-official, somewhat amorphous term. Deleted reference to CDTA since it seemed out of place as the only public service agency mentione: there are many public agencies serving the region, not just that one. Perhaps an external link, if someone knows it? --Gnhn 14:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

The article states- "The Capital District is a large component of the Albany-Schenectady-Troy Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA) which, as defined by the Office of Management and Budget, includes the four aforementioned counties as well as Schoharie County." Leaving the impression that Troy is the name of the county, Troy is a city in Rensselaer County, and the county seat as well, but is not the name of the county, where as Albany and Schenectady do have the advantage of being the names of the counties in which those cities reside. And now I just realized that it says "four" counties...this must be from when someone snuck in the name Saratoga on the end of the MSA title...It'll be longer but I think just putting "includes Albany, Rensselaer, Saratoga, Schenectady, and Schoharie counties" would be best.Camelbinky 18:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No Population Stat??

The article mentions that: "the Capital District also comprises the Albany-Schenectady-Troy Metro Area which is ranked the 135th largest in North America", however it does not actually say what the population of The Capital District or the Albany-Schenectady-Troy Metro Area actually is. I think that's a substantial over-sight. Niether does the article mention or link to any list of the other large metro areas in North America. I think this information should be added. People would likely want such a basic statitic as the population of this region and especially the population of the Greater Albany Metro area. - Anonymous Wikipedia User, 2.10.06

[edit] Capital-Saratoga Area

I removed this term from the opening line ("also known as the Capital-Saratoga Area"). I've lived here for 10 years and have never heard that term. I don't think it belongs in the first line of the article, if anywhere at all. There are no mentions of it on alt.culture.ny.upstate. Anyone have an evidence/experience to back up the inclusion of that term? --Patik 20:54, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Whoever keeps putting Saratoga Springs on the end of the name of the metropolitan statistical area needs to stop. It is Albany-Schenectady-Troy. This is the official census name, check the census bureau website or any almanac. This has been occuring in many Albany related websites. No amount of wanting to promote your home city will change the fact that census regulations determine what cities are the central cities and Saratoga Springs does not meet those standards. The census bureau determines names, not individuals on wikipedia.

Not from the area, but went to college in the area in the mid-late 1980's. I remember hearing the term occasionally then because of the growth in areas like Clifton Park compared to the rest of the region. But I imagine nowadays it's really just an outer suburban component of the Capital District. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.179.96.86 (talk) 19:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My definition of Capital District

My definition includes the following counties:

--Kuroki Mio 2006 23:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Im going to edit through the list of communities, it says it is incomplete, I personally say it has too much! There are communities listed that are outside what the general definition in the article says is the capital district. I believe it should be limited to only towns, villages, and cities within albany, schenectady, rensselaer, and saratoga counties and exclude columbia, greene, washington, warren, montgomery, and fulton counties. does anyone else have an opinion? And also i would like to take out the hamlets, anything that isnt incorporated and therefore a government to be contacted or looked up shouldnt really be listed, otherwise to be fair we'd have to put in EVERY community/neighborhood in each city (ie- south troy and lansingburh neighborhoods of troy, the south end, arbor hill, and pine hills of albany, hamilton hill, the stockade, and woodlawn sections of schenectady) just to make them equal to neighborhoods in towns that get listed just because they are in towns and not cities. 24.182.142.254 15:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Also- if someone could edit the map to make Saratoga county red I believe that there isnt anyone claiming Saratoga county is not a part of the capital district, at least not the southern part, especially waterford, halfmoon, clifton park, and mechanicville
What does anyone think about changing the link from the Albany, NY article from being through the Albany-Schenectady-Amsterdam CSA to being from the Albany-Schenctady-Troy MSA, no one really has heard of the first one, but everyone knows "Albany-Schenectady-Troy area" ie- the tri-cities. Many dont even believe that Amsterdam is part of the Capital District as evidenced by the opening section and the map accompanying it. Any opinions?Camelbinky 01:14, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I think that the "Capital region/district" sphere of cultural influence is really defined by communities falling within AM/FM and television range of the city, because honestly what else is there that culturally binds people in Albany? The only things I can think of is... You go to SUNY or St. Rose... You work for the State... Or your local stations are 6, 10, and 13. Pittsfield, for example, is pretty commonly visited and is a "familiar name" to people in the Albany area even though it isn't even in New York State. With Saratoga Springs, Clifton Park, and all those northern suburban sprawls it's the same thing. Even as far north as Queensbury and Lake George people commonly travel to Albany to go to the malls or whatever. People from Altamont or Guilderland or whatever travel to Lake George more often than the Catskill mountains even though the Catskills are right next door. Why? Because television and radio signals from Albany don't penetrate into the Catskills because of the Helderburg Hills.MartinDuffy 08:36, 14 September 2007 (UTC)