User talk:C.Fred/Archive 3

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Quebec Green Party

I wanted to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. So I did a massive search, and didn't find anything. GreenJoe 02:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Block this user

User talk:Escortoffer evidently reveals spamming. thanks Roadrunnerz45 (talk 2 me) 12:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Help with Pau Gasol page

I'm having some trouble with some editing, While I was gone, people were changing it, and it didn't help it to what I had improved on it. If you can take a look and let me know if this is vandilism and if it can be dealt with, I'd be much appreciated. Gamloverks (talk) 00:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, just monitor the page please... Gamloverks (talk) 01:04, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crunk Club

Good call adding the other article, I should have spotted that. Guest9999 (talk) 01:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

888 Holdings

OK. Noted. But many thanks for your help anyway. Dormskirk (talk) 21:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Arumugam

Articles about future films with unclear or insufficient notability may be challenged at WP:AFD. If you want it restored, I'll do it, but that's the likely response. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 17:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Such an article would undoubtedly be challenged as a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. WP:SNOW suggests we let it stay dead, unless the creator or another user objects. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 21:11, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Hdayejr?

No, I'm on the other side. I'm the one who's trying to STOP him from destroying Wikipedia. Check the logs again.69.132.26.177 (talk) 01:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC

Thank you. 69.132.26.177 (talk) 01:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
The paragraph about the Ohio Revised Codes? It's a long story with implications IRL, not just threatening violence against another Wikipedia user. 69.132.26.177 (talk) 01:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't know him IRL. I just know how much damage he's done to Wikipedia. He is NOT some kind of innocent victim here. He's a sockpuppet of a multiply banned user. 69.132.26.177 (talk) 02:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

If you're interested, feel free to read/comment at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Leon harrison and 69.132.26.177. – Luna Santin (talk) 02:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I've left a comment there. Thank you. 69.132.26.177 (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

AIV

I saw that you closed the AIV report for User:Mattbroon. I don't have a problem with it as such but I thought that your edit summary was a bit strange: "3h since last edit, edits appear good faith". No questions about the 3h since last edit part, but could you seriously argue that these edits were in good faith: [1] and [2]? Prodding a prominent British politician Neil Kinnock for deletion with the reason given as "It appears to be a commercial exercise and has no part to play in an Encyclopedia" and then manually forging the time stamp on the prod to make it appear that the prod has expired. That is pretty far away from good faith, isn't it? Nsk92 (talk) 19:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Nsk92 (talk) 20:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Supernatural

Hey, don't know if you remember, but you previously helped out on the Supernatural page with the person who kept removing the people from the Stars list. Now that the season is over, he or she is back at it, despite all attempts for logical compromises. I was wondering if you could give your assistance again?

ThanksOphois (talk) 22:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

A couple of things, forum shopping is generally considered bad, things like this belong on WP:AN/3RR, not on an admins talk page soliciting assistance. Further, WP:3RR is explicit in enforcement:

“ In the cases where multiple editors violate the rule, administrators should treat all sides equally.”

Wikipedia:Three-revert_rule#Enforcement
Please use care when issuing blocks in the future. —Locke Cole • t • c 08:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I noticed this as well. Report filed here, where I noted that you (C.Fred) also carried out one of the reverts. See here. The timing of this was the same (either just before or just after) your block of the IP editor for 3RR. Please do not get involved in the edit war when giving blocks for 3RR. I've also reviewed the edit history of the article, and it appears you are actively editing the article. Please report content disputes for other to deal with in future. Carcharoth (talk) 10:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Dead link used as citation

I don't think that posting a dead link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265374,00.htm) as a source does much to 'prove' a point. Are you arguing that Crystal Gail Mangum was not a prostitute? Duke53 | Talk 03:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

This is a quote from that link: "She was adamant that she never worked as a prostitute, and told police that in only one instance did she have sex with a customer, a man she thought was "nice."" She admitted to having sex with a customer so that makes her a prostitute, unless you know of some minimum number of times having sex with a customer someone has have to qualify as a prostitute. Duke53 | Talk 06:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Definitions of prostitute:
a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money; sell one's body; exchange sex for money

wordnet.:princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Prostitution describes the act of sexual intercourse in exchange for money. However, its definition may be extended loosely to include any sexual act for any type of compensation; depending on the location where the act occurs. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitute Duke53 | Talk 06:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Need your help

In relation to this page here, this one here and the correct article here. I think theres a prob with the re-directs and capitalization. Someone just made a re-direct, i left a message on their page but they haven't replied. Im assuming it was good faith. Thanks Roadrunnerz45 (talk 2 me) 06:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

block of IP re Supernatural (TV series)

I believe that this IP is the same person as Bcute12 - Revolving Bugbear 14:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

FYI

From WP:BLANKING: Policy does not prohibit users, including both registered and anonymous users, from removing comments from their own talk pages. IP users may remove comments from their own talk page. Doing so is allowed, and should not be reverted. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 23:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Spartak!

Regarding references for the Spartak! entry, I have added playlist entries to show regular national radio play promotion, evidence of tour posters, and further connections to other artists. The press quote (Diario De Noticias) is from a national newspaper. There are now references to other news sources (other than Blogger). The Portuguese media space is exceedingly small compared to the UK or the USA, and that could account for limited online press articles, although I believe the radio play and live show evidence is very robust proof of an active band. Blogs like A Trompa, Sound + Vision and Planeta Pop are widely read and quoted, and archived... your further comments appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Altlusa (talk • contribs) 12:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

User:WidgetWorld

Hi. Looks like I missed you on AIV by about two minutes; hope you're still online. User:WidgetWorld is a clear-cut spam account who's also doing the sockpuppet thing. Can you please take a look? Thanks! --PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Halo 3 Talk

hi, i need the page to be simi-protected because people are removing perfect edits.

Mjriley933 (talk) 22:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)mjriley933

My talk page

Thank you for letting me know about my talk page. Unbeknownst to me, another admin had redirected my talk page from my old user name, which had been a protected redlink, to my current username. That had the unintended side effect of protecting my current talk page. I appreciate you pointing it out so that I could fix the problem. --B (talk) 05:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Justification of Notable Musicianship

Can I inquire what equates to a notable musician- especially noting the unsigned thread above, and as all external links and photographs are genuine. Are tour dates required, or quotes? User:perpetualvamp —Preceding comment was added at 00:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandal returns

That vandal you blocked for vandalizing my userpage is at it again. bahamut0013♠♣ 11:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: User:Damienfranco

Sorry for not reply you before. Definitively, Damienfranco was a vandal... everything that he had on his userpage was only a lot of bad words and insults. Thank you for blocking his account!! Take care!! --Snakeyes talk find me @ es:wiki

My email

Hey, I was doing some housekeeping (for various reasons), but I Googled my email and the only place with it in the entire internet was your archive page. I bleeped it out for my own security. Just a heads up that I edited it. I apologize if you mind. --MPD T / C 23:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Doctor Steel Deletion

In my opinion, the speedy delete was without due process. I had worked hard on making an unbiased article without the problems of the version that was deleted, and it was deleted without so much as a vote or a notification on my end to allow me to save my progress or even be aware of any issues. I only learned about it because it was on my watchlist. Coolgamer (talk) 17:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

eClerx references

Hi, needed a clarification on 1) For which parts of the article references are needed? 2) What sources are considered good references so i can list only those Gingercindy (talk) 16:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

eClerx references

ok thanks, I just added a reference from BSE India for revenue and Moneycontrol.com for the Igentica acquisition, so of the 4 references listed all 4 are from independent sources. Does this work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingercindy (talk • contribs) 16:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

eNom

Hi C.Fred, would you take a look at eNom "Accreditations and awards" section? "Drive-by" editor (good faith, but infrequent contributor with thin editing history) put a neutrality flag on the article, which has led to dispute over whether accreditations and awards -- even reliably sourced -- are appropriate content in articles. Would appreciate your experienced opinion on whether section -- as-is or modified -- is appropriate content, and would appreciate your removal of neutrality flag if and when you think it's warranted. Thirdbeach (talk) 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

C.Fred, Thirdbeach is having a huff because they're an eNom employee (employed by Demand Media if you check the user's original IP address) and is engaged in a cleanup campaign. As Scosco62 stated it reads like sales or promotional material, including in the past PRNEWS links and other such nonsense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.150.252.31 (talk • contribs) 03:19, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, C.Fred. Appreciate the voice of experience. Thirdbeach (talk) 20:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


Dart88

Hi Fred, i recently updated a page : Pematangsiantar, and I was surprised to see the page is deleted because i copy-paste the text from another page. The thing is, i was trying to delete a page called "Pematang Siantar", and replace it with the correct one (Pematangsiantar). Is there any way for me to do that without typing the whole content? Thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dart88 (talk • contribs) 04:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Memo to myself

Don't forget that autocomplete of edit summaries can have a mind of its own. This is especially troublesome when a long descriptive summary starts the same as the short one you want to use. Pause, check for autocomplete, then Control-S. —C.Fred (talk) 06:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Review of Marina V Listing Re-instatement

Fred, I was instructed by editor John, who rendered the "keep" verdict to place a request for reinstatement review at the Marina V listing, and per his instructions, I am doing once again, so please do NOT remove, for the reasons, as follows:

Wikipedia has eliminated THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of unsigned artists whose qualifications equal or surpass Marina V for true notablility. For example, recently Justin Lanning was removed from Wikipedia, yet he had CD's selling throughout retail bricks&mortar chains, a billboard on Sunset Boulevard, far more youtube videos and hits per video, higher sales ranking on Amazon by far, airplay on mainstream radio stations, whereas Marina V only has internet radio airplay. How can you claim Marina V notability exceeds somebody like Justin Lanning? I am not making a case that Justin Lanning be reinstated because I agree with his removal from Wikipedia, he was more notable, not sufficiently notable. I am simply saying that you must be consistent in Wikipedia decisions and Marina V fails notability in virtually every aspect. Let me restate one last time: super low Amazon sales, ultra low youtube hits, no FM radio play, only internet radio play, limited local/college media coverage (that's NOT notable, most unsigned artists obtain niche coverage like her), only coffeehouse performances, no concert halls, no national media coverage. She is no different (and no worse) than the typical relatively anonymous unsigned artist, most of whom will be throwing in the towel by age 30, but Wikipedia has removed so many unsigned artists who are at her level or better, so it begs the question whether or not she has a special relationship with a wiki editor who is somehow keeping her listed even while so many others are removed? I argue for Wiki consistency and your decision undermines that consistency entirely. Your decision would require reinstatement of HUNDREDS of unsigned music artists who were deleted over the past few years and it makes NO sense at all, since to reiterate one last time, listing of unsigned artists with primarily only an internet presence VIOLATES all Wiki notability requirements. Thank you for your kind attention, Fred.

!MusicBizLady


Fred, my sweet, I've never done this before, so not really sure what to do and I do NOT want to mess up that page and get you angry with me. Please either open it up yourself and copy/paste my comments or instruct me more in detail what to do . My main concern is that I do NOT want to disrupt the page in question. Thanks.

!MusicBizLady

Fred, my love, I realize that there are grey areas in terms of notability but I guess my argument is based primarly upon the concept of CONSISTENCY. You cannot have Wikipedia eliminate one kind of unsigned artist in favor of another kind, when both lack the kind of notability that transcends an internet presence. Marina V has not even managed to make an appearance on a local TALK TV show, from what I can gather. Just how notable can that be? The fact that her only notable articles appear in CHICAGO journals is not impressive because most unsigned artists can obtain (at least) coverage from their hometowns, that is typical in unsigned artist circles. So eliminate the CHICAGO media, and her coverage is truly limited. Again, it all comes down to this: reinstate somebody like Marina V and open Wikipedia up to all kinds of appeals from delisted unsigned artists who are no less notable than her.

!MusicBizLady

One last point, Fred, my dear. I urge all Wiki editors to re-read the decisions rendered with respect to other unsigned music artist deletions. In most cases, it came down to only five major empirical criteria: Amazon sales rank (Marina V fails), YouTube activity (Marina V fails), National Media coverage (Marina V fails), FM radio play (Marina V fails), MySpace fans (Marina V passes (but she apparently first registered on MySpace in 2004 long before MySpace instituted passwords designed to thwart for-hire computer BOT programs which randomly and speedily amassed thousands of fans for unsigned artists). Personally, I have no issue with maintaining her listing forever, she seems to be a sweet girl, but from the perspective of protecting Wikipedia's integrity, I honestly believe you open up a can of worms with HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS, of other unsigned artists (who have been deleted previously) if you allow less than notables to remain listed. Thanks Fred.

!MusicBizLady

OK, Fred, dear, I think I figured out to to do that Deletion Review thingie, hope I did it right?????

!MusicBizLady

eClerx references

Fred, did you get a chance to review the new references i added to the eClerx page? please let me know what else needs to be done to remove the References and Citations message. Gingercindy (talk) 03:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Serene kelly

i made a page about a fashion designer and it got deleted...WHY? her name is serene kelly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lupebaby (talk • contribs) 04:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

West Runs Expwy

Is this possible that I-268 will ever be designate. it seems to a doubt to me, and I never been to West Virginia, so I'm not quite clear about that issue. I been to Wash, DC, and thats 3 years ago.--Freewayguy Talk Contribs 02:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Salting of Lard land

Feel free to unsalt Lard land if it is helping you identify the socks. I just thought that six recreations by five different "new accounts" in less than an hour was a trend that needed to be altered. --Allen3 talk 01:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks like Mardland may be the new Land land. --Allen3 talk 02:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Request to re-block vandal user/s

Greetings C.Fred. Back in February you stuck a 3-month block on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:70.138.106.139. No sooner had said block expired than the user/s were back to vandalising articles, the latest (as of today) being Hugh McDonald (musician) - again. Could you please do whatever you can to solve this? Thank you,--Technopat (talk) 20:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:AIV


Greetings. Just trying to understand why you said Badreport/ Insufficient Warning for the above. Just to correct my ignorance -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 05:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

OK ! Thanks for your immediate reply. I got the point. Have a gr8 day ! -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 05:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)