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Can someone tell me about the controversy, if any, about Sarah Lawrence College, Bronxville, Yonkers, and the zip code boundaries?
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[edit] Zip Code Issue
It is unnecessary to refer to my changes as a "rant". It is equally as unnecessary to dismiss the facts that I posted with the instructions that I should "get over" the misinformation that has been posted. That being said, if SLC were not properly in Bronxville, then its address would not be "1 Mead Way, Bronxville NY 10708." If Sarah Lawrence were officially in Yonkers, and if it wished to change its address for public relations purposes, then it would have opened a POBox in Bronxville. This was the case, for example, with Warren Wilson College in Swannanoa, NC, which opened a POBox in Asheville, NC as its official address for PR reasons. SLC, on the other hand, is officially and has always been in Bronxville. A call to the school's archivist will confirm this. This has nothing to do with my opinion on the subject. It is simply fact. I personally do not care what address the school may have, but I feel obligated to correct misinformation; it is the nature of this website.
- Actually, the original content of the article is correct. Sarah Lawrence College is located in the city of Yonkers and the Bronxville Postal District. It's not at all uncommon for an address to be in a Postal District that doesn't share its name. The determining factor is what city a school pays taxes in, and Sarah Lawrence pays taxes in Yonkers. If you'd like to test this theory, call 911 from campus and see whether it's the Bronxville or Yonkers police department that shows up.--djrobgordon 16:48, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- Also, does anyone have a source confirming that Sarah Lawrence influenced that USPS to put it in the Bronxville Postal District for the purpose of PR? It's fine to note that the college is in the Postal District, but without a source I don't think we should speculate as to how that came about. --djrobgordon 21:16, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Nobody is claiming that the college influenced the USPS in any way. Being in the 10708 section of Yonkers means one can choose to address one's mail as either Yonkers or Bronxville. However, it is disingenuous to claim to be in Bronxville when one is within the city boundaries of Yonkers. --Nelson Ricardo 21:42, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- My only problem with the former wording is that it speculated as to the motives of the college. I share the opinion that the choice of address is a PR move, but without a source it's nothing more than an opinion, and therefore not NPOV. --djrobgordon 22:25, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sarah Lawrence
Sarah Lawrence is most certainly not in Bronxville, and the first paragraph of the article should be revised to reflect that simple fact. (We're now in the position of having both the Bronxville and Yonkers Wikipedia articles making the claim that they are the home of Sarah Lawrence College, which is absurd.)
Although people who get involved in this issue seldom resort to facts, I'm going to do just that. First, take a look at the campus map from the Sarah Lawrence website, which I found at http://www.slc.edu/data/386/link/1299/SLC_CampusMapWeb.pdf. Then, take a look at the map viewer on the website of the Westchester County Geographic Information Systems (Yonkers and Bronxville are both in Westchester County) at http://giswww.westchestergov.com/westchester/emap/viewer.htm and navigate to the area under discussion. (To save time, you can look at http://www.WebFeats.com/SarahLawrence-Yonkers.gif, where I've copied the relevant area of the map.) Even a cursory comparison of the maps reveals that the entire campus is within the city limits of Yonkers (the area in gray), and that not one square inch of the campus crosses the Bronx River into Bronxville (one of the areas in white).
It's obvious to me that the article should be corrected, but I won't do that until I hear what others have to say. HMishkoff 21:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Mm, yeah, but the Sarah Lawrence post office address is in Bronxville, and the school claims to be there. DivineAna 01:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- The Bronxville postal address covers a larger area than the actual Village of Bronxville. If this article about the area covered by the postal addresses (that is, every place with a Bronxville address) then Sarah Lawrence should be included. However, this article is about the Village, the political entity. A clearly defined area that Sarah Lawrence is not in.
- Not sure where you get support for the school claiming to be there. From Sarah Lawrence College's own web site: "The College is located in southern Westchester County, bordering the communities of Yonkers and Bronxville, NY"
- Seems to me the article is fine as is. It mentions the college a couple of times and is clear about what its relationship is to Bronxville. -- Sean Martin 20:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reference Removed?
Someone revised a recent change I made that clarified the location of Sarah Lawrence College. While I'm not crazy about the edit (and don't understand why it was made), I let it stand -- but I did restore the reference that was removed with the edit. I've learned that this is a strangely contentious issue, and I had hoped to avoid an edit war by providing a reference to the official Bronxville website, which unequivocally states that SLC is in Yonkers. If someone still has a problem with the reference, I'm hoping that we can discuss it before you remove it again. Thanks! HMishkoff 20:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reference Removed -- Again???
Someone removed my reference again, and I don't understand why, so I restored it again. I hate to keep restoring something that someone else keeps deleting, but I'll continue to do it until I get some kind of explanation. I just can't imagine why anyone would object to the inclusion of a reference, but I'm looking forward to hearing the explanation. HMishkoff 05:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- Keep fighting the good fight. --Djrobgordon 19:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- It's not I, if that's the implication. Hilighter555 01:32, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- There was no such implication on my part. HMishkoff 06:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I've restored the reference again, Trxr4kds removed it yesterday, saying that it was "redundant." In a sense, of course, all references are redundant, in that they discuss and/or restate the point being referenced. But without references, contentious points are unsourced – and since this is a surprisingly contentious issue, it has a strong need for a reference. HMishkoff 13:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Citations missing tag
I added a tag because the majority of assertions in the article are missing citations. – Freechild (¡!¡!¡!¡) 13:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Why is this even mentioned in this article?
"Despite its Bronxville mailing address,Sarah Lawrence College is located in the Lawrence Park West section of Yonkers."
What relevance does this have, or value does it add in an article on Bronxville?Paul (talk) 00:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- I would guess that it's to help slow down the number of times a claim is made in this article that SLC is in Bronxville. HMishkoff (talk) 00:24, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "several notable institutions"?
The article says that the Bronxville zip code extends past the borders of Bronxville to encompass "several notable institutions such as Sarah Lawrence College." I'm curious: Are there really any notable institutions other than SLC that are covered by the Bronxville zip code but that are outside the borders of Bronxville? If so, what are they? HMishkoff (talk) 00:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Im not sure what is meant by 'institution', but the zip code covers places like Northridge Stables and Riding Center on California Road (Eastchester). Also, Sarah Lawrence maintains student housing in the Avalon complex next to the Bronxville RR station and a house on the Concordia Campus as well.--R.T.Gellar (talk) 02:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Zip-Code section
I read this page the other day (before the bulk of this section was removed) found it to be informative and helpful to the article. Any problem with restoring it? . . . and also the 'history' section while we're at it? (I'm not sure why there ISN'T one already) --R.T.Gellar (talk) 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- The postal code section is still part of the article. (See Bronxville, New York#Postal code.) The additional material that was deleted was essentially nonencyclopedic -- long anecdotal quotations from newspaper articles, about a fairly trivial topic. If this were a local historical society's book about the community, that material would have a place, but this is an encyclopedia. --Orlady (talk) 03:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
