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A good start. The one subregion which stuck out as odd to me was 'Northeast Interior', I have never heard it referred to in conversation formal or informal, although granted, yes in the odd publication or report, mostly written from an outside BC persepctive. Seems most refer to the entire quadrant as Peace River country, excepting perhaps the area immediately bordering the NWT. Anyway, look forward to more discussion on all these. WOrking on tentative map sketches now of the three regions.--Keefer4 07:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- I guess I picked up "Northeastern Interior" from modern-day media/govt stuff; I of course know the Peace River Block, aka Peace Block aka Peace Country (although that latter, older term, included lands now inundated by Lake Williston, and kind of including the Finlay and Parsnip Countries, which also don't exist in quite the same way anymore). Part of my reason in saying "NE Interior" was because of Fort Nelson and the lower Liard area - is that considered part of the Peace River Block? By extension certainly, but technically, or no?Skookum1 20:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- I guess it should stay, as normally Fort Nelson is not included in most definitions of Peace Country or the like, I've heard the term Northern Rockies ballyhooed about before for that area. Same with 'Muskwa-Kechika'. Min. of FOR considers Fort Nelson its own Forest District, while Environment currently lumps it in with Peace-Omineca.--Keefer4 20:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- As with my comments on the Lower Mainland region thread re: Hope, I think it would be tolerable to include Pemberton within both Coast and Interior regions, for reasons you've cited in the article. Back to the maps... --Keefer4 05:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- Tentative 'Interior'/Coast border sketchmaps here for south and here for north. Note gray area for upper Skeena Valley, I'm proposing an eventual inclusion for communities from Kitwanga-->Hazelton in both Coast and Interior regions when we finally get down to actual categorization. The northernmost community considered exclusively 'coast' thus would be Stewart, although unsettled resource/recreation areas in Coast Mountains bordering Alaska and fairly close to river mouths could be too, ie: part of Tatsenshini. So, the communities in multiple regions then would be: Hope (LM/Interior), Pemberton(Interior/Coast), Mt. Currie(Interior/Coast), Yale(Interior/LM?), Port Douglas(?) although you may have more to say about that one, Kitwanga (Coast/Interior), Kitseguecla (Interior/Coast), Gitanyow (Kitwancool) Hazeltons, Kispiox (all Interior/Coast). I don't think it's an unwieldy list for inclusion in both, eventually. For the most part I can only go on how people have self-identified (as mentioned in Talk:Lower Mainland) as well as a hodgepodge of maps, electoral districts etc over the years. I suppose, like the lengthy Lower Mainland discussion, these will have to be identified and cited, although possibly without as much controversy!--Keefer4 06:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- As with my comments on the Lower Mainland region thread re: Hope, I think it would be tolerable to include Pemberton within both Coast and Interior regions, for reasons you've cited in the article. Back to the maps... --Keefer4 05:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- I guess it should stay, as normally Fort Nelson is not included in most definitions of Peace Country or the like, I've heard the term Northern Rockies ballyhooed about before for that area. Same with 'Muskwa-Kechika'. Min. of FOR considers Fort Nelson its own Forest District, while Environment currently lumps it in with Peace-Omineca.--Keefer4 20:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Like your maps, and agree on the haziness of the Skeena areas, and maybe the line of the Lillooet River is the suitable one to use there, placing Pemberton in both zones. Hope is clearly Upper Fraser Valley, though, with Yale as the "bordertown" between the two regions, despite Hope's big sign as the "Gateway to the Interior" (NB in supposed "official style", other CanWikipedians would maintain that sign should read "Gateway to the interior" (cf Move discussion at Kamloops, British Columbia). The strip behind the Alaska Panhandle I don't think qualifies as Coast, though, certainly not Atlin....."the North" I've heard newcomers to BC refer to include Whistler and Lillooet and Kamloops ;-) but I'd start it at least at Quesnel, or from PG northwards anyway....but the far north, as in Atlin-Teslin, is virtually/culturally part of the Yukon in the same way that the Peace is virtually/culturally part of Alberta....; so the Coast ends, pretty well, at Stewart....there is a similar issue with the Hazelton Mountains, which topographically would seem to be a subrange of the Coast Mountains but in Holland's classification system are part of the Interior Mountains complex. Similarly farther parts of the North aren't really part of "the Interior" conceptually, and there's a sense that that term doesn't even include the Peace; it's more from the Omineca south to the border, I'd say, although in newspaper-speak the Peace is always included that way. But Telegraph Creek? Fort Nelson? Liard? They're in "the North"...likewise there's the Rainbow Range near Nimpo Lake/Bella Coola, which is in Holland neither part of the Kitimat Ranges or the Pacific Ranges but part of the Chilcotin Plateau. All this gets more complicated because of marketing-names, as with "Coast Chilcotin Coast" now (sigh) and the growing tendency to describe the mountains and region south of the Bridge River as the "Chilcotin Mountains" (officially there are the Chilcotin Ranges, but no Chilcotin Mountains), but with local businesses there now proclaiming Gold Bridge to be in the Chilcotin Mountains (despite my repeated objections) the rejigging of regional names gets weirder and weirder....Lillooet considers itself part of the Cariboo, but the Cariboo doesn't consider it so; and it's included in Thompson-Okanagan for various regional things, like weather forecasts. Damn 10 minutes warning on this library computer (Halifax) just kicked in and I haven't even gotten to the newsletter I intended to write today.....the flexible meaning of "the Coast" also is at issue, I'd say, as in the Interior "down on the Coast" refers to the Lower Mainland or at any rate includes it; but "the Coast" in a more general sense excludes it...sort of...."out on the Coast" in the Interior would more mean the Central or North Coasts, as I think I described on Talk:British Columbia Coast. "Up the Coast" from Vancouver/Victoria clearly means everything north from them; but if Victorians say "the Coast" they (at least subconsciously) are excluding VAncouver/the Lower Mainland......Would help maybe if there'd been some common sense in laying out government/geographic names long, long ago; the confusion is ongoing with newcomers; I corrected someone's webpage which put Princeton in "the Okanagan" (also Grand Forks has been called that, when not West Kootenay, and it's really neither). Gotta sign off or the library computer will trash this when the 5 min deadline hits and the Windows Vista automatic shutdown startsSkookum1 14:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
