Talk:Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia

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The first version of this article was written by
Alan Moore
Manchester England
8th September 2003
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Isn't it "written and directed by Peckinpah", which then could be shortened to "a film by Sam Peckinpah"? He at least seems to have written the screenplay. <KF> 22:43, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

My reservation on saying a film is "by" a writer-director, is that encyclopedia readers who are not film buffs, or persons browsing this edition for whom English is a second language, may not get this connotation, thus it's preferable to always identify the writer and director as such. But I'm not married to the idea. 209.149.235.254 21:04, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The average person (I'm including myself in this category - I don't usually) would think that 'by' just refers to either the writer or the director - it should be implicit in this article that Peckinpah did both dutiessheridan 00:49, 2004 Dec 24 (UTC)

Actually, Peckinpah collaborated on the story and screenplay. IMDB gives the following screenwriting credits:

Writing credits Frank Kowalski (story) and Sam Peckinpah (story)

Sam Peckinpah (screenplay) and Gordon T. Dawson (screenplay) (as Gordon Dawson) ---

Wikipedia seems to frown upon calling any film "a film by", because that is viewed as subscribing to the auteur theory; whether you agree with the auteur theory or not, not everybody does, thus making it POV. It becomes especially complicated with Peckinpah; other than 'Alfredo Garcia', none of his films were ever released in his intended cuts, so, strictly-speaking, how can they be said to be films by him?

Producers can overrule directors, directors usually overrule writers and editors and can always overrule cinematographers and composers, and most actors, but all of these people contribute creatively to the film; the auteur theory kind of dismisses this fact out-of-hand. ThatGuamGuy 20:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)sean