Talk:Border Reivers

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I have removed this ridiculous claim:

The reivers also left us with the term "bereave", a telling reflection of the violent nature of much of their activity.

"Bereave" has been an English word since Anglo-Saxon times (the Old English original was berēafian). In the original sense, it meant "deprive of", which could include possession and money. In its modern sense, the meaning has become restricted to "deprive of a spouse".

So the word "reiver" and "bereave" are undoubtedly linked; however, "reiver" comes from the older more general sense of the word "bereave", not the other way around. --Saforrest 16:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

This article is dripping with POV, and there are no sources cited for any claims. Dave420 16:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

The only book I have read about the subject, "The Steel Bonnets" is mentioned at the bottom of the article. It is fairly comprehensive. The article rings true to what I remember from reading the book some years ago. ^rossnixon 11:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Pinkie

I have been reading a book by Alistair Moffat called "The reivers" which states at the beginning of chapter 2 that the Scottish and English borderers were talking to each other in the midst of the battle and when spotted put on a show of fighting each other! I have been looking for other sources for this but could'nt find any.I think this would be a good addition to the article but would'nt want to add it for reasons already given!Any ideas?--Jack forbes (talk) 20:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)P.S I have gone ahead and added it anyway.--Jack forbes (talk) 01:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)