Talk:Bonneville Dam

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[edit] Photos

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jholman (talkcontribs) 00:46, May 30, 2004

HABS photos now linked in article are public domain and can be uploaded. doncram (talk) 02:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Old Lock?

Can someone please add the status of the old lock to the article. Was it shut down, or did it continue to operate for smaller vessels?--J Clear 16:19, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

  • What's stopping you from doing this research? Wahkeenah 16:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
The usual suspects: so much to edit, so little time; lack of inspiration; figured someone more familiar with it would have the answer already, etc.--J Clear 18:10, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

The old lock is there, but is not used. --Smartone100 19:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New material

I added new NRHP text and photo references which may contain substantial new info for editing into the article. Also, I added a 76 HABS "data pages" link whose description is another major new source of material. doncram (talk) 02:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Washington and/or Oregon?

Does it really belong (equally) to both Oregon and Washington as suggested by the templates on the talk page and by the categories? It must be under some sort of administration/supervising by one of the states. I can't image it is by both... --141.30.94.37 (talk) 19:27, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

The WikiProject templates don't indicate ownership, just that the subject of the article is of interest to both states, since it spans the river between them. According to the article, the dam is administered by the federal Army Corps of Engineers and the federal/regional Bonneville Power Administration. Katr67 (talk) 19:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
To further answer your question, things seem to be administered from the Oregon side of the river, from Bonneville, Oregon, though I believe the State of Oregon has little jurisdiction over the place. I'm not sure how much infrastructure is in Washington. The dam is "in" both states however. Katr67 (talk) 20:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I was mainly curious about who has jurisdiction about it. Even if it "is" in both states there must one of them responsible in case of trouble. Since they're listed as National Historic Landmarks for both states for example I'm wondering if it really is listed as being in both states or whether they national historic landmarks will be "assigned" to whatever state they happen to have their jurisdiction. Same with Registered Historic Place... --141.30.94.37 (talk) 14:46, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Like I said, I don't think the states have anything to do with it--it is a federal facility. As for the NRHP status, it's listed as being in Bonneville, Oregon. Katr67 (talk) 17:41, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I think Katr's right…my understanding is that the U.S. Army (via the Corps of Engineers) has responsibility for the site. Just like military bases, and places like the Hanford Site, and possibly even National Parks are primarily managed by the Feds. If something goes wrong, they might call on a state's resources, but I'd think it would be the Feds calling the shots in a case like that.

I could be wrong, that's just the impression I get from the various reading I've done. -Pete (talk) 19:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I work at Bonneville Lock and Dam so I can answer some questions. Bonneville is a Federal facility, so neither state OR or WA has jurisdiction over it. We do call upon resources from the states when needed. The Bonneville Fish Hatchery is ran by the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife and is a seperately ran state facility, although we work together and are neighbors who share. The Columbia state juridiciton run pretty much down the middle of the river, and in fact the Spillway at Bonneville is split in half by the state borders. Since it's on Federal land their is no dispute.

To answer the question about the old navigation lock it's in what is called "Mothball" status. It's not currently functioning, but it could be brought back on-line if we had to shut down the newer lock. I'm not sure how long this would take. I would imagine 1-4 weeks of constant labor. I've walked through the old facility and nothing has been kept up on it. Both of the Navigation locks have ever functioned at the same time.Brad Hamel (talk) 05:48, 11 January 2008 (UTC)