Talk:Bo Diddley

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[edit] Stubbed

I stubbed in a few facts, but haven't time to write anything more ...

[edit] Last appearance

I removed, He was last seen on TV in Gainesville, FL (Alachua county). I know I read something about this somewhere, but I don't really recall where. Source? ~~ShiriTalk~~ 01:38, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

More accurately - Bo Diddley is *credited* with writing the song "Love Is Strange" along with Mickey and Sylvia. This is disputed by blues guitarist Jody Williams, who sued RCA Records for royalties. He claims that Mickey and Sylvia overhead him playing the song and without permission, recorded it. The lawsuit was settled against Williams, but I believe his story is credible. Source: http://www.evidencemusic.com/artists/artist.cfm?artistID=blues337

The name Bo Diddley is also a reversal of the name Diddley Bo(w) which was the name describing a primitive type of musical instrument used in the late 1800's early 1900's. Some think this is the source of Bo's name. Ray Skinner England.

Bo Diddley is scheduled to play a show on Sunday, September 3rd, 2005 at the Bumbershoot Festival in Seattle, WA. http://www.bumbershoot.org/lineup/artist/bo-diddley

some peuple say, tha't bo diddley is even more influential than b.b king and chuck berry.

"The nickname is also linked to the diddley bow, a one stringed instrument used in the south by mainly black musicians in the fields, although this has been proven false, as his fingers were too big for the slide."

This seems incorrect to me: as I understand it, a diddley bow is a one-stringed instrument made by stapling a length of baling wire to a wall, played with a slide. Nothing to do with "out in the fields" as far as I know. One source for this explanation of a diddley bow would be David Dalton's novel, "Been Here And Gone."

J Epstein

I can't specifically speak on the "in the fields" thing, but a diddley bow doesn't have to be attached to a wall; you can put a wire on a stick of wood, maybe with a tin can on one end to act as a resonator, and Bob's your uncle -- portable as can be. --Karlos the Jackal 10:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Electric guitars have been around since the 1930's. As much as I like Bo, he's far from being one of the first people to play an electric guitar.

he's probably one of the first to play a solidbody electric guitar. and i can't think of anyone before who customized his instruments so extensively —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 20:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright

See this web: Bo Diddley


hey, what about the duchess...i thought i could get some infos about her on this page....? anybody knows something about ther? marcel

[edit] Diddley's real name...

Crackin' Up from Bo Diddley (alias Otha Ellas Bates but given the surname McDaniel in infancy on adoption by his mother's first cousin Gussie McDaniel), US POP chart #62, 07/1959. Another fake info by Stephan KOENIG???

Thanks, Stephan! Sometimes, I see "McDaniels"! Fore sure, it could be something to drink! S.K. unlogged...

[edit] Name in the article

Is there any reason for him being referred to as "Bo Diddley" throughout the article, rather than plain "Diddley" (as per Wikipedia:Manual of Style) ?

Derek R Bullamore 18:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think the pseudonym "Bo Diddley" is meant to take the form of a conventional name structure (eg first name Bo, second name Diddley). It's more like "The Edge", who is referred to as "The Edge" throughout his entry (not "Edge" or "The"). Drella Melmoth 12:56, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

On the other hand, how do you explaing the following song titles: "Diddley Daddy" and "Bo's A Lumberjack"? And what about "Big Bad Bo"? Surely, if he wrote, or allowed songs/albums using either "Bo " or "Diddley", they are valid representations of his name. Steve Pastor 18:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

BTW, under Early Life and Career the diddly bow is mentioned as a possible source for his name. The article describes the diddly bow as a two-string instrument, but if you go to the link for diddly bow on wikipedia the instrument is described as one-string. ~~phx~~ June 02, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.47.2 (talk) 19:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Bo Diddley beat

I came across this concept in the I Want Candy article, where it is mentioned in the lead. The most intelligible explanation of a particular "Bo Diddley beat" in this article is

One and two and three and four and one and two and three and four and

which as far as I can see is identical to an ordinary son clave. What makes it "Bo Diddley"? EldKatt (Talk) 19:27, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Bo was quite good at self promotion. This from the article about his appearence on the Ed Sullivan Show, at the time a major showcase for talent - Bo Diddley was asked to sing Tennessee Ernie Ford's hit "Sixteen Tons". But when he appeared on stage, he sang his #1 R&B hit "Bo Diddley." - He sang a song about himself! So why not name a simple rhythm after yourself (or maybe let other people give it your name)? Sure helps keep your name alive. Steve Pastor 20:01, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Also known as hambone or "patted juba", it is a traditional west African rhythm. It not hard to believe that it got to Cuba, Haiti, and the US from there. 167.73.110.8 (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why the Chicago Wikiproject?

(moved from User talk:Speciate page) My question is what category do you feel that he belongs in that warrants WP:WPChi attention. I do not see any categories listed. For us to justify our assessments we need to either ensure that an appropriate category be added to an article or an appropriate category be created to add to an article. I do not see how he belongs in our project. We can not every musician who makes frequent appearances in Chicago in our project. If so, we might end up including every company represented by the many Chicago advertising companies. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 20:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

The article doesn't explain very clearly, but Bo Diddley moved to Chicago in 1934 at around age eight, went to Foster High in Chicago, played violin for the Ebenezer Baptist Church Orchestra under O.W. Frederick in Chicago, got his first guitar in Chicago, renamed his first band after a street in Chicago (Langley Avenue Jive Cats) and played for 10 years in Chicago before getting a recording contract in Chicago with Checker/Chess records in 1955 (and staying with the label for 21 years), and did not really move out of Chicago until the 1970s. Speciate 04:50, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Great work. I would have missed him if you had not known about his life. Thanks for adding the category so that we can maintain a consistent policy. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 14:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] first African American on the Sullivan Show?

Not by a long shot. Count Basie was on the 8/29/1948 show. [1] Steve Pastor (talk) 18:05, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Ever hear of Pearl Bailey? [2] September 25, 1955 Steve Pastor (talk) 18:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Louis Armstrong, Lena Horne, Cab Calloway, Eartha Kitt, there's quite a list of blacks who were on before Bo. Steve Pastor (talk) 18:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] pictures

i think this article could use some more pictures of a younger Bo insteed of all the pictures of him from after 2005 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.130.211.27 (talk) 17:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Unfortunately Wikipedia's draconian image use rules pretty much prohibit the uploading of images that weren't personally taken by editors, so it makes sense that more recent images are likely to be available. 68.146.41.232 (talk) 16:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] diddley

"diddley squat" is the slang term for money made by carnival workers on the nickle and dime games. If you weren't making any money, you couldn't "make diddley squat". I suspect this is not related to his stage name, though. Pustelnik (talk) 21:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] John Lee Hooker reference

"The family moved to Chicago when he was seven. He took violin lessons as a youth, but was inspired to become a guitarist after seeing John Lee Hooker."

He's 11 years younger than JLH, I'm not too sure that he was inspired by him...any chance of a reference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.230.62 (talk) 22:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Need Information On His Band Mates

Can someone add to this article or create a new article on those female guitarists?

Peggy "Lady Bo" Jones - http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/2-10-2001-2322.asp

Norma-Jean Wofford, THE DUCHESS - http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/DuchessObit.htm

69.109.249.151 (talk) 02:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Great reference source

Much of the Bo Diddley article is undocumented, and therefore subject to Wikiattack. Fortunately, the NY Times today published a lengthy detailed obituary. I don't have time to mine it for inlne references, but I hope some other folks can. Ben Ratliff, "Bo Diddley, Who Gave Rock His Beat, Dies at 79." New York Times, June 3, 2008, p. A1

Go in peace, Bo Diddley.

Bellagio99 (talk) 22:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)