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[edit] Im a Beaner
This text appears on the page just above the content box - anyone know why?
Stupid people?
[edit] Swapped Order
I have swapped the order of the basic and the broader senses of Blasphemy, as it seemed to make the initial flow of the article progress better.
[edit] Idiots
I have removed the Gibson-esque 'damn Jews' which someone had added to the middle of the article.
Artist Convicted of 'Blasphemy'
Mon Jul 21, 7:24 AM ET
WARSAW (Reuters) - A Polish artist who exhibited an image of a man's penis attached to a cross broke the Roman Catholic country's law on blasphemy, a court has ruled, according to Poland's top-selling daily on Saturday.
Gazeta Wyborcza said the conviction of artist Danuta Nieznalska in the Baltic port of Gdansk was the first known instance in Poland of anyone being convicted of offending religious sensibilities.
"The cross is a symbol of suffering, because on it Christ died. There is no doubt that this cross has been desecrated," the paper quoted as Judge Tomasz Zielinski as saying.
In addition to a 2,000 zloty ($500) fine, the judge imposed on Nieznalska a six-month foreign travel ban, saying her legal notoriety would likely increase her demand in international art circles.
"I am shocked by such a severe sentence," the paper quoted the artist as saying after the verdict. "The court was totally biased. The judge admitted he was no art expert."
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- Hey, that link didn't work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.68.22.207 (talk) 07:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC).
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Not touching the above quote with a ten-foot pole, I was under the impression that Finland had repealed its blasphemy law circa 1990. -- Kizor 10:38, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- On research it appears that it hasn't, but I couldn't see anyone save the freethinkers caring about this. There have been three convinctions of it in the recent years, all fines, and at least two were quite unambiguously asking for it. FYI. -- Kizor 29 June 2005 14:30 (UTC)
Blasphemy and the Church of England - A divisional court did state that English law protected the beliefs of the C of E, rahter than Islam, but this is not a strong precedent, and in isolation would misrepresent the scope of the blasphemy laws. I altered that sentence to indicate that the law referred to God, Jesus & the bible, which is better supported by other precedents and the actual legislation - Paul 20:29, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
I subdivided the blasphemy laws section of this article to make it a bit more organized and hopefully a little bit easier to read and understand.
JesseG 04:55, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
I tried to edit the main paragraph but the article always gets truncated in the edit box.--84.188.185.146 04:56, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Muhammad cartoons controversy relevent?
I'm not sure whether it's really relevent to include a link to the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy in the section on blasphemy in Islam. Wasn't the controversy mainly about iconism rather than blasphemy? In any case, a link at the bottom seems out of place, if it is really relevent it would surely be better to include a sentence of two description of the controversy, focusing on the issue of blasphemy, rather than just pointing towards it without fitting it into the wider context of blasphemy and Islam. Daduzi 23:24, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- Following a discussion with User:Tom harrison the link has now been moved into the main paragraph and put into some context. Daduzi 16:30, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Blasphemy law in Britain
The article says that blasphemy laws are still on the book in Britain, but there's no handy set of brackets afterwards to tell me which law(s) that's referring to. If someone could put that info in I'd be interested to read it. --Hughcharlesparker 21:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Blasphemy laws in France?
Some court decisions in France suggest that there are blasphemy laws on the books; for example, the ban on an advertisement that used the Last Supper in a way that the court ruled constituted "a gratuitous and aggressive act of intrusion on people's innermost beliefs". None of the news articles make clear precisely what law is being used in these prosecutions, though; does anyone have another source that might clarify that? --Delirium 03:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Blasphemy in Islam
Blasphemy in Islam Blasphemy in Islam constitutes speaking ill of Muhammad, of any other prophet mentioned in the Qur'an, or of any Biblical prophets. Speaking ill of Allah is also blasphemy. Blasphemy is considered a very serious offence and may be punishable by death if charges are proven. British author Salman Rushdie's novel The Satanic Verses was seen by many Muslims to contain blasphemies against Islam, and Iranian clerical leader Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa in 1989 calling for Rushdie's death. More recently, the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons were criticised in part on the basis that they were blasphemous against Muhamed.
This paragraph says "Blasphemy is considered a very serious offence and may be punishable by death if charges are proven". Which country is this effective? Can the author make this clear?
[edit] Odd sentence in Blasphemy in Christianity
What is "The more metaphysical aspects of early Christianity being now occluded by the dogma of secular religious authority." supposed to mean or refer to? And what is "secular religious authority"? Mairi 06:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vilied?
In the United Kingdom section I find the word "vilied". Is this a typo or a real word? I cannot find this word in any dictionary. Please add a definition at Wiktionary or replace it with a word I know. I would fix it myself, but I am not familiar with the incident and can't figure the intent.-- Randall Bart <wiki@randallbart.com> 20:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- Great word! Yeah, it should be vilified, I think. Have corrected. Bluewave 21:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Blasphemy in Christianity
That seems to contradict the Bible a little bit, especially because an outsider like me has no clue what "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" is or means.
[edit] Paris Hilton?
In this article, it is written in the section "Blasphemy in Islam" that "Paris Hilton's existence is a blasphemy for most people" or something like that. This is surely innappropriate. User:DYBoulet July 29 2007 10:19 AM (AST)
[edit] Dubious
I find it highly dubious to say Ireland has a blasphemy law. No source is provided - the one given is an extremely vague link to the article on the constitution, but a constitution isn't the law. It's the constitution (there's a huge difference). Also, the only mention in the constitution of anything remotely like that is (as far as I can tell) one which holds the state (not the population) to respecting religion. Can someone please clarify or provide a more specific source - EstoyAquí(t • c • e) 01:10, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
As far as I know "subject to public order and morality" (Article 40.6.1) has been accepted by the courts to accept any blasphemous libel. See, for example, The Corway Case. As obscure as it is, blasphemy laws do exist in Ireland because of this mention of public order and morality.
And the Constitution is the law. It is the most fundamental legal doctrine in our countries. Any other laws which contrdict it are not, in fact, law. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.84.35 (talk) 16:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Jerry Springer the Opera
It is incorrect to say the Jesus appears "dressed as a baby". The first half of the play is an episode of Springer's chat show; the second half is a dream sequence where he imagines himself doing a show in the Afterlife. The actor who played the "baby fetishist" in Act 1 plays Jesus in Act 2. The audience is certainly encouraged to draw a connection between Jesus' loincloth and the nappy that the fetishist wore, but it's wrong to say that Jesus appears in a nappy. There is enough in the play that is genuinely offensive to Christian sensibilities (e.g the implication that the Virgin Mary was "raped by an angel") that it's a pity to pick on something that isn't really there.
Andrew Rilstone (talk) 14:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
