Talk:Biography of Frank Sinatra

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[edit] There is no reason to ever use "whilst", regardless of nationality.

13 1/2 pounds at birth? That's bullshit, be serious.

And especially not in an article about Frank Sinatra, an American, describing events that mostly take place in the USA. --63.25.100.198 14:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Issues

I appreciate the amount of work that went into this biography expansion. It was a lot of work. However, I do have some concerns regarding how much this article simply duplicates and expands the main Sinatra article. I don't have a strong opinion on which article needs the work, but one or the other needs to be condensed and rewritten with an eye toward making the material more unique. Since this is about Sinatra's life, I would suggest that the more extensive career material be pared and the personal life material more expanded. The article is also in need of improved referencing. There are a lot of facts, figures and quotes included with no reference whatsoever. Another issue concerns the puffery and use of weasel word descriptions and peacockery. Use of language such as "the results were, typically, outstanding," "in many ways could be considered the apex," "highly revered," "widely considered," "many considered," etc. aren't encyclopedic and violate WP:NPOV, WP:Peacock and WP:Weasel. I started working on some of this, but frankly, it's overwhelming. Hopefully, contributors will jump in and work on this. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:19, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your recent condensing work. This article was originally the bio part of Frank Sinatra, and the bio there reprensents a condensed versh of this. I think most of the relationship discussion should be in Relationships of Frank Sinatra, another fork. A lot of the puffery derives from the fact that I've only rewritten birth-1940s and 1970s till death, which been puffed since, adding to the 1940s-1970s Frank love-in. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 00:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 00:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)