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[edit] GA Renominated

I've made the changes requested by the previous reviewer and other improvements to the page. I'm going to resubmit this for GA. Wshallwshall (talk) 19:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archived old content

I've archived the old discussions, but left the GA Fail in preparation for resubmitting.Wshallwshall (talk) 18:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA fail

This article has a lot of references, but they aren't in the right format. A good way to remedy this would be to use <ref> tags. This allows reader to see what the link they're clicking on leads to. With these tags, you can also add author, title, and publisher information to make the article more verifiable. The article also needs to be rewritten into prose. Right now it reads like a list. Wrad (talk) 01:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thoughts for the GA nominator

  • The sections of this article should be changed to conform with the normal sections listed in WP:MEDMOS. For example, "Medical definitions: primary vs. secondary enuresis" should be simply called "Classification."
  • There should be no space between the end of a sentence and its reference (or the previous reference). It should look like this.[1][2] It should not look like this. [2] [3] I have fixed most of these for you, but there are still a couple left to be fixed.
  • The article says the same things repeatedly in a couple of places. It might be better to have a single subsection titled "Punishment increases bedwetting" and put all of the information in a single place, instead of scattering it throughout the article.
  • There are too many external links. Please pick the very best and delete all of the rest. I would be happy to see this list reduced to four good links -- perhaps two for professionals and two for parents. Twenty-one external links is definitely more than this article needs. Also, do not list in the external links section any website that is listed as a reference in the footnotes.

Overall, I'm not convinced that this article is entirely ready for GA status. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Response

Thanks for the help with the spaces and for the feedback! Those are all good points. Thanks for letting me know about eh MEDMOS stuff... I haven't seen until now. Putting the article into that format will take some time, so I guess I'll remove the nomination for now.

Thanks again for taking the time to help with the article! Wshallwshall (talk) 00:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit?

I suspect that the editor who added "Pediatricians normally recommend the child stay in diapers until this age prior to medicated treatment for bed-wetting" meant to specify at night. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Response

WhatamIdoing... thanks for watching out for this article. Regarding the diapers addition, I removed it and requested a citation because my research doesn't support the statement. see:[1] and item #6 at [2] Wshallwshall (talk) 21:39, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Despite the assertions of Tarbox et alli to the contrary, I'm unconvinced that the first source, which presents the experience of a single 29-year-old person with mental retardation, really says anything useful about the typical four year old who wets the bed a couple of times a week. Given a choice between diapers and medication (the false choice that this edit proposes), I still suspect that the typical pediatrician would prefer diapers. (I'm willing to agree that the best option is "neither of the above," but that's not always practical in the real world.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Frequency of bedwetting section's percentages

The sentence: "As can be seen from the numbers above, 5% to 10% of bedwetting children will not outgrow the problem, leaving 0.5% to 1% of adults still dealing with bedwetting.[3]" does not make sense. Based on the percentages in the table, 0.5% to 1% of children will not outgrow the problem, not 5% to 10%. Is there another explanation for the percentages as they currently exist? Imogenne (talk) 05:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)