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Contents 1 Neutrality 2 Fair use rationale for Image:Austen women in cricket.jpg 3 Fair use rationale for Image:Hathaway with book.jpg 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Normal janehq15.jpg 5 Pictures 6 Still a stub 7 Off Topic Tag 8 Templates Added 9 Section Added 10 Mr. Wisley is Anne de Burgh? 11 Live by her pen

[edit] Neutrality

For God's sake, it's as though this article's been written entirely by the studio who distributed it! It's not neutral in the slightest, filled with weasel words such as using "gorgeous" to describe the costumes used in the film. It needs a rewrite. Crazy Eddy 16:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

"It needs a rewrite". For God's sake, don't just stand on the sidelines and shout it! Get in there and do it! Be bold! -- Jmc 21:56, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I've taken out some of the more egregious adjectives, but it still needs a lot of work. In my opinion, the article has too many passages from the film; for example, is "Joe Anderson was an attractive Henry Austen and as an Oxford militia officer, he had the opportunity to wear a beautiful scarlet uniform, which invited a particular comment from Eliza de Feullide (‘Scarlet looks good in you’). He also wore a brown overcoat during his walk with Jane and Eliza." (in the Costumes section) necessary? ANyone have any thoughts? CaptainJae 20:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Austen women in cricket.jpg

Image:Austen women in cricket.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 04:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Hathaway with book.jpg

Image:Hathaway with book.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 05:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Normal janehq15.jpg

Image:Normal janehq15.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] Pictures

I'm wondering if there aren't too many pictures in this article? Nine, that I counted. All very nice, yes, but I wonder if all are needed to illustrate this movie? Elbeonore 05:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Still a stub

Sorry people, but this page is still technically a stub until it has a plot synopsis of some kind. Since this page is already quite long, it might be worthwhile cutting down some of the more superfluous stuff (such as the very long "Dances", "Costumes", and "Trivia" sections), or at least moving them to a separate sub-page. -- Grandpafootsoldier 20:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm for moving them to a sub-page, as I find this sort of information very interesting and one of the reasons I come to wiki in the first place.

BellyOption (talk) 11:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Off Topic Tag

On reading the article, the leading sentence in the dance section caught my eye: "It is a truth universally acknowledged among Jane Austen fans that Jane Austen loved to dance." I'm not entirely sure we need cute references to book quotations in an encyclopedia article, but I was going to let it slide. Then I read the rest of the section - though well-intended and well-written, it both reads like an essay (though I omitted that tag in favor of the off-topic one) and has very little to do with the film. Instead it turns into an very extended digression on dance in the Austen era. I'd like to see an editor more familiar with Austen and the film work it into something better, but if nothing happens in a few days I'll try to cut it into something on-topic. Vonspringer 16:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

This material is nearly a verbatum transcript of a blog entry http://becomingjane.blogspot.com/2007/06/dances-in-becoming-jane.html

BellyOption 19:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Templates Added

Hi all, I'v added two templates as the article is not organized properly, in need of much referencing, rather POV, and there is no seperate synopsis (plot summary). Also, I call into question the costuming sections, they should be pared down into one section if thry are deemed completely necesary. There was mention that parts of this article are copy/pasted from other websites; if so please delete all said violations. Thank you. Zidel333 15:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Section Added

I think this article is missing some specific information about how Jane Austen's life has inspired her books, which is one of the main reasons that this film was made and why this film was so interesting. It would be comprehensive to capture some of the (more direct) references the film made to the novels. I think this could be another subsection by itself. Please feel free to edit/add more references! --Chacciaz 15:14, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, most of this film is FICTIONALIZED. There is no evidence to support the idea that events from jane Austen's supposed love life directly inspired the plots of her novels. The references the film makes to Austen's novels (through made up events from Austen's life) should be taken with a large grain of salt, along the vein of Shakespeare in Love. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.237.255 (talk) 22:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mr. Wisley is Anne de Burgh?

Really? Really? I'm removing the whole section - if somebody can source it, they can restore it, of course. john k (talk) 03:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Live by her pen

The article says that it was ironic that she did not live by her pen, publishing anonomously. But the main Jane Austin page disagrees. And indeed one could pubish anonomously and still get proceeds from the writing, which it appears she did. It is true that she got much more popular and widely read after her death, but it appears she was comfortable with the proceeds of her writing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigmac31 (talk • contribs) 23:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)