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Am moving link to "Woman's Hour" as this programme was never on the Home Service: it went out in the Light Programme 1946-67, on Radio 2 1967-1973, and then moved to Radio 4. Am dubious about "Mrs Dale's Diary": AFAIK that was always on the Light Programme. Some sources say it began on the Home Service, but I think they're mistaken. To be followed up. -- Picapica 11:25, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Confirmed "Mrs Dale's Diary" was never on the Home Service (removed); "The Goon Show" WAS on the Home (added) -- Picapica 21:29, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge to BBC Radio 4 - History

I suggest that this stub article be merged into the History section of BBC Radio 4 as that article provides plenty of information already and will be the name that first comes to mind for the majority of people today. BBC_Radio_Four#History Unsigned comment on 18:02, 15 August 2005 by User:Davidkinnen

I've broken this article back out of the previous redirect. The previous article was a dull stub, covered well enough on the BBC Radio 4 page; this new one is much more and covers far more about the Home Service than the Radio 4 article can manage to hold. ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 15:34, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "BBC Third Network"

I don't believe, despite what the article maintains at present, that there ever was a "station" publicly known as the BBC Third Network -- "third network" was the internal BBC designation for those frequencies and transmitters which were used to broadcast the Third Programme and, later, alongside the Third, such programming streams as "Study Session", the "Sports Service", etc. (the non-Third Programme elements were later still bundled as "Network 3"). Am looking for more sources at present. Would welcome anyone beating me to it in finding a definitive answer to this question! -- Picapica 19:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

• The term was reguarly used on air ("This is the BBC Third Network. Now we begin today's Study Session") and it is mentioned in the BBC Yearbooks for the time. Give me a couple of days and I'll get a page reference. ➔ This is REDVEЯS 08:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that, Redvers! You've convinced me. Although I'm old enough that I ought to be able to remember the announcements made at the time, there is such a lot of contradictory info on the net concerning the Third Network / Network 3 (dates and nomenclature) that I ended up confused myself... I did once start a "time-line" on all this for my own purposes. Looks like I shall have to have another go at it! -- Picapica 10:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

• If you get that to work, I'd snap your hands off to look at it! I have to admit that the BBC Yearbooks from the 1970s onwards are hopeless confused about how things used to be. I'll dig out some 50s and 60s Yearbooks and post the info here. It'll take a couple of days - I'm knee-deep in brick dust from a new kitchen at the moment :o( ➔ This is REDVEЯS 11:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Here we go! BBC Handbook 1967 (before ISBNs, sadly). Page 41:

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Third Network The Third Network consists of the Music Programme, the Third Programme, Study Session, and the Sports Service. The Third Network is also used for special programmes including ball-by-ball commentaries of the Test Matches.

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Also in the same book is a technically-minded BBC timeline ("Some BBC Dates", pp216-225) which mentions:

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30 Sep [1957] Re-organization of sound radio programmes. Network Three began

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30 Aug [1964] Introduction of the Music Programme in the Third Network

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From this I think we can prove that the "Third Network" is everything (MP, TP, SS, SS, TMS) whilst "Network Three" is all of them except the Third Programme. This <opinion>is sensible of the BBC: if we think the storms about changes in schedules at R3 and R4 are bad now, the national scandal of even a hint of change in the Third Programme in those days can only be imagined!</opinion>. In fact, BBC Chairman Charles Hill says on p9 of the 1972 Handbook (about the killing off of most of the individual section names on Radio 3 in 1970):

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Dons mourned what they thought to be the passing of the Third Programme... In fact the new pattern of radio was quickly accepted and liked by listeners.

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That last is almost totally untrue, but then the truth had never bothered Lord Hill before anyway. I'll look into putting some of these into the article as inline refs, although without ISBNs it's of less usefulness IMHO. ➔ This is REDVEЯS 11:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)